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Re: Probing The Silence
Posted by parhad (Guest) - Monday, February 16 2004, 11:35:33 (EST)
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The Nineveh Kid wrote:
>Mr. Parhad, I’m not trying to patronize you, when I say that you are not only an artist, but a damn good one; I can see that.


...not interested one way or the other.

And, I believe you are good at what you do because you love what you do. You are very good with words also. And, I think I am a good enough listener, to hear something important in the message you are trying to articulate. Something in what you are saying rings true in my ears. Please don’t misunderstand, I’m not capitulating, I’m just saying there is something there, in your words, that I can’t quite pin down, but I’d like to get to the bottom of it for my own satisfaction. Then I’ll leave you alone. I’ll go my way, after that, when I’ve learned whatever it is I should from you, and then, there will be one less Assyrian Christian thorn in your side.


...you don`t bother me at all. In fact I welcome your head...I just wish it wasn`t on quite so backwards...you mean well, but the path you think we should follow to get there is what the problem is...I see no reason to ignore, or remain indifferent, to the wealth of Assyrian wisdom and history and morality that is being kept from the world or filtered, slowly, through Jewish Assyriologists and others while we`re exhorted to keep running after a nice Jew like Jesus was.

...there`s no other way to get to where we need to go than through these Christian idiocies...none. We can`t avoid them, they won`t let us...we can`t ignore them or laugh at them without someone leaping up and calling us sacriligious and blasphemous, while every slander imagineable has been and is still being uttered against our Heritage...and by our OWN people no less...when the whole lot of it is fit for a classroom in hell.

> One day, I’d like to be able to do, with words, what you have done with your sculpting. I’ve always wanted to be a writer, but I’m still studying the craft and I have a long road ahead; maybe you can help me on my way. I love writing, and I believe the best way to become an accomplished writer is to write and write and write. I hope you noticed that I said, “accomplished writer,” not a successful writer. I don’t care if I ever earn a penny from writing. I want to paint with words, but convey what I’m trying to say as honestly as I can. That quality is missing from a lot of literature today as well as movies, television and music. That’s because the people who create a lot of this stuff they call art, are in it for the money and the fame. Money is not important to me, and fame even less. In fact, I prefer anonymity, because it will help me preserve my integrity.


...writing is just feeling and thinking expressed with the written as verses the thought or spoken word. If you have something meaningful to say, the writing will take care of itself. There isn`t anything to "study"...it isn`t a circus trick or a technique...not if the words gush out of you and there`s no way of stopping them...it`s called passion. Studying writing is like studying lovemaking...for what?

> Well now, getting back to this problem of Christianity. I’ve wrestled with religion and God most of my short life; I’m still wrestling with them. I keep looking for new angles from which to view them. I don’t think I have any doubts about Jesus Christ being a real person, who actually lived and said the things that are recorded in scripture.

...that`s a pity. You wanna buy a bridge? I own one in New York,,,I can give you a good deal.


And, I do believe that His words are true. I may have some doubts about a lot of things that happened afterward, with respect to some of His followers, inside and outside of the Church.


...Why? If you`re going to swallow one bucket...why not ten others? How the hell did YOU get to be the one to decide which batch of nonsense is nonsense and which is sense? See what I mean...men created god, not the other way around. To me, believing in gods is a humiliation and is retrograde to human development ...

Most of that, however, I attribute to the fact that Christ never said He would change human nature, and clearly it hasn’t changed. It didn’t change even while He was here, with us; Judas was proof of that.


...this is like seriously asking me to discuss Mother Goose nursery rhymes...there is no "there" in what you`re wrestling with...it`s all looney toones...the real substance and issue of Life is nowhere near this stuff.

I do believe that His message has made a difference for mankind though and a lot of it for the better. Part of the reason many people fail to see the better part of it though, is that people aren’t interested in the good part; it’s too boring.


...he had no message...he repeated what had been said by countless other people and they got killed for it too...and countless have been killed for it since then. He is a contrivance of the Roman Empire to go and do what they did best and are still doing.

...there is an equestrian Theodore Roosevelt in front of the
Museum of Natural History in New York that shows him in a most manly and heroic stance...with three or four indigenous people from all over the world crouching at the sides of his horse as if for protection. Another variant of that theme is here in San Miguel and shows a Padre or priest patting the head of a Native who also crouches at his feet in supplication, as if for protection at his hands and those of old JC...these are of course all lies put out by the Church for people like you to swallow whole. The reality is that these Natives are crouching in fear and pain and humiliation at the feet of the very people who brutalized them begging, not for more...but for less.

...It goes something like this...Padre or pope says to Native..."Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, Prince of Peace...or else". If the Native remains unconvinced as why wouldn`t he...since the message of Jesus Christ might as well have come from outer space as far as these people are concerned...the Padre next says..."Okay, I can see thew Devil is mighty strong in you and we`re going to have to whupp that Devil right out...now I can`t correct you or wield the whip...and I can`t kill you if you remain unconvinced cause I is de Holy Arm...however, in that room over there is the Secular Arm and if I send you in there He will kill you for me...now which is it, will you submit to the gentle Lord Jesus Christ or do the people in that room rip your eyeballs out"? A convincing argument you must admit and hence...another "Hypocrite for Jesus" for you to lament years later the OBVIOUS hypocrasy in many Christians...well what the fuck do you EXPECT?

...That`s the TRUTH of this Christian nonsense that says wherever those Evangelising pain-in-the-ass Christians went, people fell all over themselves to get in line, so impressed were they by the wisdom in his message...these are tricks for children and pretty stupid ones at that, which is what the Church and the Secular Arm want us all to remain.

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