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Re: A lesson about principles
Posted by parhad (Guest) - Thursday, August 5 2004, 18:43:38 (CEST)
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Paul Younan wrote:
>You didn't even address the example of honor among the Palestinian man in the refugee camp. Of course not, you can't say anything.

...it isn`t honor...it`s a man driven insane by the end result of what Christians started doing to us all 2000 years ago. The Palestinian man has been driven insane with anger and grief..he`s watched in disbelief as bolnde blue-eyed couples from Brooklyn have taken back HIS farm and sent him to a refugee camp....because Jews were hounded for centuries and butchered and chased here and there till you Christians FINALLY found the right Christian to solve your problem..and part of that solution was to make them realize how murderously unwelcome they are in a Christian world, that they didn`t want to return to Europe or be resettled in Latin America where Christianity was waiting for them all over again..so they went to Palestine and Christians who`d just finished killing Jews,..."gave" them the lands of Palestinisns and sowed the seeds of anger and distrust between people who had good relations all those years Christians were hounding and killing Jews.

That grandfather has been driven crazy by the residual violence and stupidity and cruelty of Christianity, like you have, like suicide bombers have... to the point that the ONLY way he can "fight back" and keep his honor..is refuse help for a dear child...because that is the ONLY weapon left to him.

The insane don`t understand honor...they just talk about it.
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>I'd refuse to save my own child's life in many instances, not just denying my God. I'd refuse to save her life if it meant taking another innocent child's life, for instance.

...you are creating scenarios to distract from the main point...we can discuss how many ways you`d let your girls die some other time..right now we`re dicussing ten words too awful for you to say...while leaving them in a state of mind and body too awful to contemplate is okay with you..so long as you don`t have to see it..or suffer much yourself..under those circumstances the scimitar is the easy way out.

...if those murderers gave you the choice to remain alive while they did their dirt with your daughters...and you would have to SEE what they did...not from heaven on a cloud with a beer in your hand...but right THERE...and it meant you could at least console one daughter and clean her off and tell her again how much daddy loves her...and then clean up the other one when her time is done..and spend all the time it took until both of THEM died first...would you be "honorable" enough to do it...or would you leap into that scimitar gladly..to get your HONOR a little faster and skip the sight of what your honor cost your daughters...a prolonged agony you ran from.
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>Tell you what I would do, though. I'd make sure those motherfuckers got a knife in their heart as I was going down, that's for sure.

...no you wouldn`t. I would...I have no principles or honor...you have to listen to the rest of the stuff your religion told you...forgive your enemies....but since we see you don`t listen to THAT part of it...because it is inconvenient..then we know you listen to it and CHOOSE death over WATCHING because it pleases YOU..has nothing to do with a god...since you pick and choose what comes easiest to you anyway.
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>Your honor is that of the jungle - survival at any cost.

...you`re the one who saved yourself at the cost of saving your children..you`re the one who went to heaven to collect your reward, leaving them here alone and friendless to get THEIRS!

You're an animal, no different from a beast in the forest. For some of us, as I said, there are things worth dying for. My child's life is one of them, so is my religious conviction.

...that`s a compliment...beasts don`t wage religious wars...they kill only to eat..you kill for god...you also allow your cubs to get killed for him.

...you have the order reversed for public consumption...tell it like you told it before..your religion comes first..you children will just have to take care of themselves in this world...at five and ten or 12 and 15 years of age while their grown father is dancing on a cloud.
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>I'd die in an instant if it meant saving Kaylen's or Shayna's life

...yopu`d die even faster if it meant saving your soul...leaving them to die slowly.

- or saving your children or anyone's children. You would flee with your tail in between your legs

...I never did...I took in the children of othere people for three years...twenty-five of them...I broke the law and faced jail to save my own.

...You`d run to heaven with your head between your legs rather than give up your soul for your daughters.


.....anything, as long as your own hide was intact.

...you`d do anything to save your soul...including give away your daughter`s hides.

..I said I`d do anything to save my daughter and yours...you decided I have no children to concoct a scenario in which you have me running to save my hide...I left you your daugthers...you threw them away.

You'd even through Ashur away. Like I said, he's no God to you.

...since you didn`t...then stop claiming to be an Assyrian...be proud to be a Jew. I found Ashur and endured years of work in his service...joyously with all that implied...you have no basis for your claim that I would throw him or her away...we KNOW you would throw your daughters away...I didn`t make it up.



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