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Re: Christianity 101
Posted by Tiglath (Guest) davidchibo@hotmail.com - Saturday, August 21 2004, 20:12:12 (CEST)
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>>Jesus was a great philsopher and revolutionary in the same style as Nietzsche and Che Guevera are today.
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>Sorry Khizma, Nietzsche was not sinless and Che Guevera never raised the dead. Neither of them claimed, and proved, to be God.

......I never said they did. Jesus did because he was following in the footsteps of our ancestors. When King Ashurnasirpal entered Nineveh during the Spring Equinox our people would gather by the side of the road and use evergreen palm trees to symbolise the ressuected God of fertility Tammuz who lived through the King during the ressurection holiday and New Year celebrations.

>Eshoa Meshikha is far from a "great philosopher", although he did have great teachings, and he was far from a revolutionary, although he did start a revolution.
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>You have described some, but not all, of His being.
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>>Yet this concept of him being a god is very far from the truth.
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>It's absolutely the Truth - as forseen and prophecied in type by ancient Mesopotamian symbolism which pointed to Him and His coming. There are reasons why the Magians in Beth-Nahrin were the first to come and worship Him.

.....What? Of course they're going to say that. If I had to pretend that I was a God I'd also write my memoirs and state that the Rockerfellers came to visit me when I was born and brought my gifts as well.

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>The Beth-Nahrinites were the first Christians, because they worshipped and offered bisma before the white Greeks and Romans (and even the Jews) had heard about Him.
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.......They were the first Christians because they were forced to accept Christiantiy. And in order to work Christianity adopted the majority of the ancient Mesopotamian religous beliefs, practices, customs and holidays. And as Christians we still use Tammuz trees during the birth of Jesus (Tammuz) during the Xmas holiday and we still celebrate the resurrection of Tammuz and Ishtar during the Easter holiday.


>There is strong symbolism in the story of the Majii - I wish you would take to time to contemplate the meaning....the significance of Beth-Nahrin coming to pay homage to He whom it had been expecting for millenia.
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>>This concept's antecedent is the very same Ishtar and Tammuz myth you put down earlier.
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>Ishtar and Tammuz were symbols for nature and the cycle of seasons. Meshikha is quite different, as you know since you've read the bible.
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>>As you can see from the above picture, our Kings were considered reborn Gods every year during the Spring Equinox they took the place of Tammuz and brought fertility to Beth Nahrain. The evergreen Palm tree was symbolic of Tammuz and was used to symbolise the conquest of death by Tammuz.
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>So were kings in ancient Mayan civilization. These themes surrounding nature renewal are universal to ancient, naturist religions.

.......The Jews didn't treat Jesus like he was the ressurected God Tammuz using his symbol the Tammuz tree becasue they had seen it from the Mayans.

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>>Our Kings were treated the same way as Jesus when he entered Jeruslaem and Palm Trees were used to prepare his path symbolising his resurrection. The same happened with the Persian King Cyrus when he entered Babylon.
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>Yes, and many a baby was sent down a river in the past. The parallels are not impressive in the least bit. These were common things.
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>>The Old Testament book of Jeremiah (Jeremiah 10:3-4) also describes how the Birth of Tammuz was celebrated in ancient Babylon , "..for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the ax; They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not."
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>Yes, and Western Christianity kept that tradition by associating it with Christmas.....as you know, we did not. There were no Christmas trees or Easter eggs in Mazraa.

......That's not the point. I'm showing you that Christianity has ripped off our ancient religion and resold it back to us with us as the big bad wolf.
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>>There's also John the Baptist who was actually commemorating the ancient Death of our God Tammuz holiday when he baptised Jesus on the Noosardel summer solstice festival to ensure that he was reborn.
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>Two questions:
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>(1) How did you arrive at the specific date when Meshikha was baptized by Yukhanan Mamdana?

.....Mostly common sense. It would have occurred during the hotest time of the year. There were others being baptised on that day, not just Jesus which indicates that it was a summer religous festival being conducted by the Jews.
And since the practice had been going on for thousands of years before Christ it's easy to see that John the Baptist was following in the footsteps of our ancestors when he was splashing the waters of life onto Jesus(Tammuz) to ensure he would return and bring fertility to the land. This is a practice that we continue to celebrate to this very day. When I included it in the AAS calendar last year an Anglican priest brought a copy of the calendar and wanted to commend us for finally explaining the meaning of Noosardel, which means 'sprinkling water on the path of God (Tammuz).

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>(2) If somebody in South America at the same time was taking a skinny dip in the Amazon river - were they, too, commemorating the death of Tammuz?
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>>You see Paul the very pillars of Christianity are our ancient Beth Nahrain religions but with the disclaimer that the names, places changed to protect the ignorant.
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>Yes and no. Yes, the pillars of Judaism (and therefore Christianity and Islam) were foreshadowed largely in types of our ancient religion in Beth-Nahrin.
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>No, these things are not simply rip-offs with names and places changed to protect the ignorant. These things were literally fulfilled.

.....Don't tell me your source on this is the Bible? Right?
C'mon Paul what did you expect the Jewish writers to say? Every salesman states that their product is the best.

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>>Christianity is in fact a philosopher who advocated peace and wanted to revolutionise his ancestors' myopic Jewish religion grafted onto our ancient religon and resold back to us with us and our children as the bad guys.
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>Khouna, that is an oversimplification of immense proportions. It would take volumes of books already written on the topic to sufficiently explain how and why Christianity is unique among all world religions....including its predecessors in type of Mesopotamia.
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>The imagery and typology you see in Mesopotamia which point to the coming of Meshikha, a Mesopotamian Semites who spoke our language and looked like us, is just that. It was revealed to our ancestors that these things would happen in order to prepare them for the revelation of Meshikha.

.......Then how abput showing me one cuneiform tablet that specifically states that there shall come a Messiah and he shall make us renounce our pagan ways and we shall find the true path. Now if you can find just one cuneiform tablet that validates the plagarised and untrustworthy Jewish Bible then I will return to Christianity.
>There is so much more to say on the topic. Let's keep the discussion going.
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.......The truth shall set us free Paul.



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