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Re: EVEN BETTER!!!
Posted by parhad (Guest) - Saturday, August 28 2004, 7:51:38 (CEST)
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..what a lying putz you are!
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>The Supreme court in ruling for United States v. Vuitch, upholding a District of Columbia law permitting abortion only to preserve a woman's life or "health." However, the Court makes it clear that by "health" it means "psychological and physical well-being,"

...and they did that why? Because they are godless heathens who seek to loosen a woman's skirts? A woman's psychological and physical well being may mean little to you..or any man...but it is of great concern to women...and abortion is about a WOMAN first and foremost.

effectively allowing abortion for any reason.

..this is your lie...and that of the people who do this. You can't, if you are honest, go from two very distinct reasons for abortion...to preseve a woman's life...including two definitions, Psychological and physical well-being...to claiming this means, "for any reason EFFECTIVELY", that "efectively" is NOT legal jargon used in a ruling of this magnitude..it may be YOUR side's take on it, but it wasn't the court's.

Is, "I feel fat"...or "I want to play tennis sooner" one of those reasons? And remember you weren't talking about during the first trimester when the law requires NO reason for an abortion..you specifically mentioned a procedure that takes place much later, an EMERGENCY procedure which is NOT covered under "for any reason"...but for a SPECIFIC reason..and at THAT stage it is NEVER for a "mere" psychological reason..unless you have the figures.

..you may not know what these terms mean..or appreciate that when the Supreme Court wants legal definitions of medical terms it does NOT come to you. There is nothing in that statement to indicate that if you allow for the things the court does..which are defined in the most strict and technical terms INSIDE the ruling...they are therfore allowing abortion, "for ANY reason"...that is YOUR lie..or attempt to confuse.

..furthermore, you said she could have an abortion for ANY reason right up to the ninth month...I would like you to find out the stats on what kinds of reason are included in your "ANY" reason and show us which ones you think were frivolous..the ones she and her doctors sipped wine over while planning her new wardrobe...after they killed a perfectly healthy baby she almost brought to term and didn;t abort earlier because she obviously WANTED it...but "changed her mind"

..You are despicable..but in god's service and knowing him as we do...I'm not surprised in the least.
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>Doe v. Bolton, also issued by the Supreme Court, defines "health" to mean "all factors" that affect the woman, including "physican, emotional, psychological, familial, and the woman's age." (Andrew Varga, The Main Issues in Bioethics, 2d ed. (New York: Paulist Press, 1984), 61-62.)

...it says ALL FACTORS and then detals what those factors are..and again you are deliberately misleading..you make it seem like the "for any reason", which refers only to the first trimester when a women NEEDS no reason, health or otherwise, is the same as the last month when she MUST have a damn good medical reason!...it does not say "ANYTHING YOU DAMN WELL PLEASE"...not for the ninth month, it says that for the FIRST weeks.

..the procedue you describe taking place only in dire emergencies when the mother's life is at serious risk, happens in the ninth month...the earlier abortions NEED no reason...medical or firvolous.

Once again you give only the title or cursory review..the legal decisions in cases such as these run to hundreds and sometimes tousands of pages in which legal scholars and experts go to great pains to strictly define and refine exactly what is meant and you'd get a headache trying to read the table of contents...these are the kinds of scare tactics and lies and distortions god blesses you for making..because you do so in a good cause...like going to war in Iraq was for a good cause...you have no shame.

..you provided not a jot of evidence to back your claim..and nowhere did it mention "up to the ninth month" and for "any reason at all"...every instance where an abortion is legal and justified, not in heaven, on earth where women and babies die...is clear and conscise...your attempt to make a sensational and absurd emotional plea was a cheap carnival trick...and DON'T put the severed head of a fetus on here and say, "WHAT ABOUT THAT...HUH"???
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