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Re: Murder Inc.
Posted by Paul Younan (Guest) - Thursday, August 12 2004, 16:40:57 (CEST)
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>>Dawith and Khatoun were martyrs for their faith.
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>...YOU don't understand what a martyr is...

I understand perfectly what a martyr is. If you use the definition in Webster's dictionary, it means a person who chose death instead of denying their religion.

They were martyrs. Get over it.

> Whether or not they would have been killed anyway is irrelevant.
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>...WHAT? That was the WHOLE point..that they KNEW they would be killed an didn't care!

No, they didn't know they would be killed even if they recited the creed. They thought they would be saved. My point was that even IF they recited the creed, they may have been killed. We have no way of knowing what was in the mind of those doing the killing. It doesn't matter.

The fact remains that they were given the opportunity to give up their faith and live, at least they had every indication that this was the case. They refused.

> Whether or not the Turks who did it had conversion on their mind is irrelevant.
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>...Well it would seem the entire story as first presented along with you and your principles are also irrelevant.

I said "whether or not" - don't you comprehend English? I never said that it was NOT the Turk's intention to convert them. I am not a mind reader, I have no idea whether they intended to kill them anyway. Maybe they were sick demented fucks like you who just wanted to toy around with their confession to Islam before they killed them anyway. Who knows? Who cares - what does it matter?

>>Whether or not they converted may have been irrelevant to Qinno's fate. We don't know whether or not she was raped. We don't know that they didn't just kill her on the next stop. It's all irrelevant to my point.
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>...which is what? What's left now that you took everything back?

I took nothing back. I simply said it is irrelevent whether or not the Turks truly intended to convert them or just wanted to kill them anyway even after they recited the creed.

Don't just read the words - TRY to understand the reasoning.

>...it is YOU Christians who used Jesus to kill six million Jews and are again at it waving a dead Jesus at us while you damn and set up and murder thousands and then hundreds of thousands of Muslims...with those people still in harm's way and you telling us to be careful because our enemies might hear, to come saying Curses on their Prophet...whose mosques were attacked and still are being attacked well BEFORE any Muslim touhced a church of yours makes you about as odious as can be...this is EXACTLY what you fucksticks for Christ have been doing to enrage Muslims..and you say, who ME...what did WE do???

There you go again. US Assyrian Christians never used Jesus to kill six million Jews or any of your other ridiculous charges. Try to stay on topic and in scope....literally.

-Paul



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