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What`s Left Of Paul But Pulp?
Posted by parhad (Guest) - Saturday, September 4 2004, 18:13:16 (CEST)
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..that sure as hell was refreshing....If you remove US from Christianity..as a religion..there isn`t much left...there isn`t anything left that`s sane.

Jesus was no great shakes in his lifetime and there would be and were before him lots of men and women who lived longer lives and lived them in accordance to rules Jesus followed as well...rules and ideas and feelings. They say he should have stayed among the Essenes where he spent his missing years..that his mistake was in trying to prosletyze...to take the cult`s message outside the boundries of their tight circle and ran right smack into both entrenched Jewish ways as well as the Roman Empire...how could he have possibly survived? In that sense he went to his death willingly..or at least knowingly and that`s admirable but no more so than when Socrates accepted his or as countless others have as well.

But even in the teachings of Jesus you find nothing remarkable...nothing anyone has pointed out yet to me at least. Being kind and decent and forgiving and a champion of the widow and orphan was hardly news...Jesus broke with some established traditions in hanging out with diseased and outcast people but I doubt he was the first to do so...Ghandi did the same as I`m sure there were thousands more throughout the ages.

The only thing that saved him as a religion or even someone we would have heard of was the Roman Empire and you have to wonder what they saw that made him attractive to them...300 years after they killed him.

Addmittedly his example and this promise of a kingdom for the poor to come would have a lot of attraction to all the people the Empire was beggaring and enslaving...and their ability to find meaning in their degradation...to accept trials and tribulations willingly, even joyously, as a sign that they were being favored for that distant day when they`d turn the tables on their rulers...was a powerul inducement. It`s worth noting that the greatest attraction of the hereafter is that you TURN the tables on the rich and powerful who finally get THEIRS while you get the catbird seat...no one wants to go to a Heaven and find the same elite class ruling you for eternity...clearly there is a material advantage to this spiriual promise.

What convinced the Emperors, who knew damn well who was "testing" people in their Empire, was the acceptance of the status quo as a RELGION...for as Jesus famously is made to say...Give Caesar whatever he demands..whatever`s left over that he doesn`t want..is your`s. Nowhere does Jesus rail against slavery..which wasn`t fun in those days...and he says the Proletariat and out of work single mother, the hamburger flipper and Wal-Mart "associate" making barely enough from paycheck to paycheck will "always be with us"...no Labor Movement for Jesus...no peasants seeking to own their own land and bodies...this is one helluva religion for Tyrants..which Roman Emperors and Fascist dictators who always favored Christianity all were.

The one outstanding feature of Christianity I can see...which has nothing to do with kindness or good works or even Faith...is this business of accepting a GIFT for YOUR participation in a murder...sort of group guilt ina BIG way...the murder of Jesus happened before we are born...but we are reminded constantly that he was murdered...he didn`t "die"...FOR US. That means whether we were then and could have stopped it...or were born 2000 years later..and whether we want it or not HE WAS EXECUTED FOR YOU!

And, as Andy our, by now well Urinated, priest told us then..."since it happened already..why not take the gift"? Try telling that to the cop when you`re caught with stolen goods you didn`t heist...just get the benefit of..try it. By accepting Jesus...by accepting that he was murdered FOR YOU...and had to be or no chance at a Heaven of stolen goods...you become a party to the crime..after the fact. But that`s okay..that`s the whole IDEA. Follow his teachings to the letter and you STILL won`t get Paradise...Heaven ONLY comes if you accept the murder...if you agree to benfit from it after all you don`t HAVE to, it`s your choiuce and you accept the deal depending on your character...there are millions of people the world over who know the deal full well and refuse to benefit from his murder...they don`t want it for THEIR sakes,....and even though he`s long dead and "where`s the harm" as Andy said...they still don`t like the idea.

A crime is a crime...your gaining a benefit from it doesn`t elevate it to a Religion..unless it`s a religion of murderers amd criminals who from then on can`t WAIT to benefit from more murder. The key seems to be that you MUST benefit..no murder just for fun..there has to be a clear advantage...for your "soul" no less...what a Howler of a religion..and they make fun of Ashur! No wonder Paul dasn`t utter a peep here about his "religion"...not what makes it tick and boom and crash anyway..not the guts of it....the BLOOD and guts of it.

But there`s even more...you can`t just say "Yes" to murder and "Yes" again to sharing in the spoils...to really clinch your seat in Paradise you have to go through a blood initiation that would make a Hell`s Angel queasy....you have to eat the flesh and drink the blood of the corpse of a murdered Jew...how`s THAT for a Gang Initiation?

They call it a "game"..in that it isn`t real..it`s play-acting...but my god what a thing to PLAY at? Why can`t you be told to plant a flower for Jesus? Why not play at being an Irish tenor for Jesus...why do you have to play at THIS game? Why would two of the most disgusting crimes anywhere...universally condemned by every culture we`ve ever known be chosen as THE ONLY and ultimate way you get into Heaven? Copy Jesus all you want to..even agree to his execution as a ticket to Heaven...BUT..refuse to join the gang and play at cannibalism and vampirism and NO HEAVEN FOR YOU!

This can`t possibly be healthy...the long range effects of this sort of thing can`t be good...and we`ve become bloodier as time passes...we kill far more than anyone ever did in them old days..far more. We just graduated to starving children to death..what Hitler had to hint at...we proclaimed to the world as an acceptable government policy...now what?



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