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Re: Sim-El : In the name of God

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Written by Shushan on 14 Jul 2004 16:23:43:

As an answer to: Sim-El : In the name of God written by Tiglath on 14 Jul 2004 15:24:45:

Your father sounds like a great man who was following a great cause to regain a homeland.

...are you now going to presume to rewrite TiglathĒs own testimony? Have you so little feeling for what it took for him to say this that you want to paper over the deepfelt remorse of what you call a "great man", by removing his own words from him? Have you no shame?

He was betrayed by the British it sounds.

...he may have been..but Iraqis were betrayed by those Assyrians as well...try to see all sides.


Didn't those oil fields not exist before the British built them and didn't they call it Iraq and set up the government, so your father was not a traitor to modern day Iraqis, if I understand this properly.

..no, you donĒt understand it properly, you donĒt understand at all. ThereĒs no Assyria yet you all clamor for rights in it anyway..whatever the nation was called at the time...weĒre talking about betraying PEOPLE..the trust of PEOPLE who took us in when we were running from Iran..who saved our lives. ItĒs these moral blind spots each fanatic has in defense of his own shit that infuriates the rest of us...youĒre merely using what Tiglath told you to service the same church agenda..the same one that wonĒt admit 27,000 Assyrian children were just killed by Christians...


He was trying to secure a homeland for his people so they would not have to have any more oppression, hardships and genocides like what happened in Turkey... no more orphans and broken spirits and raped women... so his intentions were honorable and you should be proud to be his son.


...you are one mean eyed bitch. And you can thank yourself for those words for you earned them. It is despicable of you to try to explain his father to him...the lengths you people will go to to justify your own treachery is amazing to me...and what youĒre getting for it, then and now and from me too, is long overdue. How dare you.

...trying to secure a homeland gives you no extra=legal rights...or else the Kurds are justified in all they do...idiot.

It sounds like the British betrayals and trivializing of all peoples in less developed countries that their imperalism exploited, was the villan and not your father and his assyrian comrades. And those "Iraqis" who took revenge on Semele, were in the wrong for if those people in Semele's only association with your father's freedom fighters trying to get a homeland back was that they were Assyrian too, then blood for those innocent victims is on the murder's hands and not your fathers...


...if America can kill Muslims anywhere in the world, with your blessings, because of what 19 Saudis did to it...while never attacking Saudi Arabia ONCE but continuing to do oily bidness with it while going to Afghanistan and Iraq to murder instead..then Iraqis can kill Christians anywhere they get their hands on them, for what 19 Christians did.

You missed the entire point, which isnĒt surprising...but that you would intrude into this with THIS point of view..as if Tiglath didnĒt reveal something significant...well honey, get ready to be dragged over here a lot. YouĒre going to play dirty then expect to be dirtied in return.

and you should be proud to be a son of someone that risked so much and saw war, and still had the conscience to feel bad for implications of his actions.

...well you are a 24 hour complete service bitch..IĒll give you that.

If Assyrians were living without fear of another genocide then I would agree with you that he was a traitor that had some culpability in those innocent deaths, but he was trying to stop another genocide...

...in no way were those men trying to stop another Genocide...that was the whole point to what he said..they were trying to "win back a homeland"...taken by force from the people of Iraq, in the pay of the British...after what they had already experienced in betrayal from the Brits, to trust them again especially in carrying out an illegal attack on the same Iraqis who took us in...hasnĒt a moral toe to stand on...and had they won and been able to keep their prize, they would be applauded by an International Law that sanctifies thefts, the same one that will recognize a new Kurdistan..?

...There was no Genocide..you donĒt even know what the word means..just sounds nice. It was Christian attacks and betrayals and greed that brought war to Turkey...and that spelled doom for all Christians in the empire..as a concerted attack by a coalition of Muslim countries against America would land all American Muslims in jail..as an attack against America by Japan landed all Americans of Japanese ancestry in concentration camps.

...When Muhammad won the MidEast..as when Christianity won the New World..it spelled the end for Christians and Native American religions as well...thatĒs just the way the world has been wroking lady...try living in THIS world. Christians in the MidEast will pay and have paid EVERY time oputside Christians attacked those countries...for you to be running around STILL claiming this is an "injustice" when it happens to YOU is silly...as are you.


who are any of us that did not live through what happened in Turkey to judge those that saw almost everyone they knew and were related to killed, who are we to judge them for their actions to prevent another genocide by getting a homeland away from people who saw us as worthless infadels.

...more lies. Muslims donĒt regard Christians as infidels..thatĒs the pagans they refer to...they respect Christians so long as you donĒt point to your religion as being the reason you are treacherous...then they will dislike your religion as YOU express it. You want more blood...you just conclude your statements with empty words for peace.

I lost a lot of relatives in Turkey and my grandmother grew up in horrors of poverty and orphanges, so I know that the damage done in Turkey by that genocides was to those left living as well as those murdered... so don't be so harsh on your father and don't let the betrayal of the British and the genocides and murders committed by others, destroy the spirit of your dead father, as it sounds like it may have when he was alive

...you fucking bitch. I lost family too but that doesnĒt make me want to kill other familes...you should have kept your fucking mouth shut this time...you could have posted these dreary thoughts somewhere else..or just made the statemnent at another time, not intrude your propaganda every chance you get, a eulogy is no place for you to argue with the person delivering the message...itĒs not like we havenĒt heard this crap a million times before..but we havenĒt heard what Tiglath just wrote even ONCE...and thatĒs your motive..to try to weaken and distort the Truth every time it comes up...the same British you say were at fault are over there now...with their American allies..why donĒt you come out NOW and call them all traitors and warn our people not to trust them yet again?...why not expose them NOW, even as theyĒre killing our people? IĒll tell you why..you want more of them killed so you can have more of your dear "genocides"...you hate the idea of peace...hate it if it means Christ stays out.


... I know what damage was done to my grandparents... my grandfather was always grumpy and my grandmother had symptoms at the end of her life from the horrors of the begginnings of her life.

...then you can blame the Europeans who brought that war to Turkey to steal their oil...Christians never had it better anywhere in the MidEast, even in Europe, than they had it under the Millet system where they ruled themselves..something they couldnĒt have gotten in Chicago or London...the Turks gave you that and the British and the rest of those Christians took it away...NOT the Turks.

So if your father had suceeded and got a homeland, now you would be giving speeches in honor of what a great man he was... you should still hold him as such.

..and what makes you think he doesnĒt? You are a sly one you are. There was no possible legal justification for what they did...it is not an honor to be used, even if you get some money for it. Would you honor yourself if by giving five British officers a blow job..and swallowing THAT too, youĒd get your homeland? WhatĒs so wonderful about an "Assyrian" homeland filled with women who whored themselves anyway?

Just a humble opinion. Be at peace... may we all be at peace, even the dead.
Shushan

...youĒre a contimptible liar. TiglathĒs post has already had a positive effect..it removed the tin halo youĒve worked so hard to plant above your own head. The Truth has freed you...see how powerful the Truth is?



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