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Posted by parhad (Guest) - Tuesday, July 13 2004, 22:31:16 (CEST) from - Windows XP - Internet Explorer Website: Website title:

..the Christians, they aren`t Assyrians, at beth are howling their heads off. ONE story or fact or opinion they don`t like and they`re all over you like the two bit whores they are. They have THEIR grudges and the rest have THEIRS and all of them, out for revenge trying to even up some score, are god-crazy...and there will never be any end to it...but more than that and perhaps most important of all is the glaring fact that our boys do not care for all dead Assyrians alike..they are not interested in remembering or even acknowledging the 27,000 murdered Assyrian children because their own Christian Masters killed them...and focus only on those Muslims have allegedly killed..I say allegedly because I won`t trust anyone who bases his "concern" for a child on WHO killed the child and seeks to use the corpse in one instance and ignore it in the other... Nothing reveals more that this is a religious grudge match than this fact we`ve all witnessed right here before our very eyes. Aprim and Jassim and Younan and Jatou and MarDinkha and all those reverneds aren`t crying for dead Assyrians...they`re crying for their loss of churches in Iraq..for Christ`s poor showing there..and they`re so low as to use our dead whenever it suits them to make that point...while ignoring all the harm THEY and THEIR MASTERS have done ALL OF US! Re: Kurds vilification of the Assyrians -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beth Suryoyo Assyrian (Othuroyo) Forum -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Written by wm warda on 13 Jul 2004 18:01:33: As an answer to: Re: Kurds vilification of the Assyrians written by Tiglath on 13 Jul 2004 13:30:36: Tiglath: Because of your love and devotion to the Kurds you have decided to justify anything they do even if you have to intentionally twist the truth and sacrifice the interest of the Assyrians for their benefit. ...because of your love for Jesus, a Jew you have decided to only value your own people when they are killed by Muslims..ignoring 27,000 Assyrian children killed by your Jews, with your blessings...and covered up. It serves no Assyrian interest to let Christian thugs and criminals and war profiteers that they may kill our children with impunity and immunity from YOu so long as they are Christians and will kill our Muslim brothers and sisters for us...whose side are you on? As such you give up your right to be an Assyrian even if your parents were. ...is that what you are? You are the one to decide these things? Just how did those 27,000 dead Assyrian children give up their right to me meorialized, to be wept over..how did their mothers give up the right to be consoled by "their" people...what did these people do that all those dead Assyrians killed by Muslims did right? What does an Assyrian have to do to be worthy in your eyes...die right? We choose to live right. Who a person is is determent by to whom or what he pledges his devotion. As a person who intentionally lies to justify the most evil deeds of the Kurds against his own people, even your own family members during world war one, you have lost your right to be a fair and wise judge in lecturing us about whether our religious beliefs are right or wrong. ..he didn`t lecture..he asked a question for which YOU have insulted him every chance you got, as you are allowed to do by the same moderator who would remove him in an instant if he was as vile as the rest of you Christians...I lost family too and I want no more..on EITHER side to go on paying for past mistakes..I don`t want blood...I don`t deal in blood, pure or dirty, as the rest of you Christians do..it may symbollic in church but there`s no end to the amount of blood it takes to keep you people holy. Whatever the meaning of the Kalu Sulaga may be is not intended to tell the world how evil the Kurds have been. Whatever lies Kurds will tell will not bother us as long as it is not meant to harm the Assyrians or their interest. ...and what of yourlies that NO Assyrian children have been killed by Sanctions? The story of Zahak is well-known in the Persian literature which most Kurds should know well if they consider it part of their history. It has been told since the 11th century in the 'Shahnameh of Ferdosi' and is widely available to read especially for the Kurds whose language is similar to the Persians and millions of them live in Iran. There is no mention of the Assyrians in this legend or their defeat in 612 B.C. or that Zahahk was Assyrian. These are deliberate lies which should be condemend by any fair minded person because they are inteded to incite hatered of the Assyrians ...were your Levies intended to show gratitude for the Muslims who saved your lives..who could have left you to the mercy of other Muslims? The reason for the vilification of Assyrians by the Kurds are the same as are your intentional distortions of the truth to help them at the expense of our people. The ideas you profess if headed will hasten our extinction. Since you do not have the best interest of the Assyrians in mind all your your criticism and mocking of their religious beliefs will be considered as part of your campaign to harm them. How can any one respect a person who is ready and willing to betray his own people? ..that`s what we keep asking you...how can you sit there and say Sanctions killed no Assyrian children...how can you encourage Christians to attack our country illegally...how can you priase them for destroying Iraq in hopes of making a theme park of it....the Kurds did what they did ages ago..it is YOU Christians who`ve brought this murderous crusade to our people..not the Kurds. To believe your lies and distortions is to believe the bible..which YOU do...not me buster. I`ll take my hisotry lesson from Assyrians YOU take it from the Jews...cause that`s where you`re getting it in the end..in the END! If not for christianity our people would have been extinct long ago. ...Bullshit..our people embraced Islam and lived to glory in another Empire...it is Christians you mean when you say "our" people...not Assyrians, who are alive and well inspite of all your hatred towards them for choosing Muhammad over Jesus...it is your fucking Christianity that WILL make you extinct in the MidEast..you know it..you see it coming and that`s why you`re spreading these lies...so you can have maximum damage inflicted on all Muslims..to blacken their good name just as your Christian Masters are doing..it won`t work and you know that as well..you just want to ruin it for everyone...that`s your National CHURCH Agenda. ...we see you...and we say so...and we show others and it`s for THAT, for telling the truth and revealing your agenda that you blast our parents... As a people without a country they had nothing else to believe in. ...they have a country..always did...for those born in Iraq,,,it`s Iraq. You Syrians and Turks can go ask THOSE countries for a triangle..how dare you come to Iraq claiming to be the indigenous people because of a Jew religion out of Israel..are you crazy? Many, many Assyrians live and do just fine and did in Iraq and elsewehere..but that`s not what you want...it isn`t what you spread these manuscript lies for..you merely call all happy succesful Assyrians in Iraq and elsewhere TRAITORS! Why? Traitors to what and to whom? To CHRIST..who else!!! Because if they live and prosper and raise happy healthy Assyrian children, like >Majdolin was trying to do, you feel the "massacres" of ten thousand years ago will be FORGOTTEN...and so you destroy their chances..you seek to inflame Kurds and Turks and Muslims...you even go so far as to set our people up...make incendiary statements and wild assed claims like you are doing here...in hopes there`ll be "trouble" between them...a trouble you can fan and nurture and grow because it is a "good thing" when you can expose Muslims etc. You are the greatest enemies our Assyrian people EVER had...Muslim AND Christians. Nature doesn`t like monsters..and there`s a good reason your numbers are dwindling in BetNahrain..because you have made YOURSELVES odious and ruined it for all decent Assyrians, Christians and Muslims, who know history is filled with crimes andn injuustice but who stubbornly refuse to give in to revenge and instead march forward to a better day..all you want is blood...you don`t really care whose either so long as there`s lots of "Muslims" blood flowing...you cast out Tiglath for asking a question...divorce him from a Heritage he`s work long and hard at..is it any wonder then that you`d want Muslim Assyrians KILLED! The language which we speak would have been forgotten had it not been used for prayers and religious teaching and it will continue to survive for as long as we use it in our religious practices. ..then it`s a religious language only and will go the way of Latin. You have done nothing BUT religion and if your churches are taken from you you`ll never order a latte in Aramaic again. It was only a strong religious belief which helped our people to survive during most hopeless times. ..."your people" are not Assyrians..and they certainly aren`t ALL Assyrians. I and the people who helped me have done a hell of a lot more for the Heritage..not your fucking churches, than you EVER have or will...in America where you are free to do any Assyrian thing you want you merely build more and more storefront churches and a madrassah or two...Assyrians NEVER built Jewish temples...and they did a lot more than pray for death and destruction to light on their own people. "Your people"...are Christians...Iraqi Christians and some others from neighboring countries..you merely Uslurped the name in hopes of stealing some land...and you`ll be shown to the door for the thieves you are...The Iraqis let you in when they didn`t have to..and now after years of trying to civilize you and teach you some love for the NATION that is Iraq...they`re going to send you packing..would that they had done it sooner. It is surprising that you can not see this but since you care nothing about the survival of our people perhaps it should not surprise us. ...quit the silly ass verbal games...you`re clumsy in the extreme...nothing you say has diminished the right and indeed the duty of any sane and civilized person to QUESTION..and your responses thus far have made our point for us beautifully...OBVIOUSLY you are no Assyrians..or if you ever were, you`ve been corrupted by Christianity a Jew knock-off religion any Assyrian would have scorned back then, as even the Jews did...and no Assyrian today would pay homage to it. Your claim of worshipping Ashour sounds empty. ..and your`s of being any kind of Assyrian equally so...especially when you wax ecstatic about how YOUR ancestors ran shaking to a village and were later relieved and thrilled to dump our god and Heritage for THAT idiotic religion that made cannibals out of you. Our forefathers ceased to worship Ashour simply because they lost faith in him. ...Fuck you. No Jew could have called it better...the idea that Ashur was weak and a Jew much stronger is what your parents were killed over and their children fucked into believing when they were taken from them and raised "Christian" by the Romans...no wonder the single most outstanding characteristic of you Christian "Assyrians" is self-loathing..it shows in everything you do..you hate yourselves for believing you lost faith in Ashur and feel as mean and low down as people would who "lost faith" in their father and went to look for another who could give them a bigger allowance.... ...NO Assyrian "lost faith"...neither did any African, Welshman or German..they lost their parents first and were then forbidden to practice ANY of their rituals and express any of their Heritage that wouldn`t conform to the New World Order...it happened all over the world..but what is so disgusting about you people is that you continue to insist you really WANTED to whore your parents and trash that lovely god who MADE us what we were...in favor, voluntarily, for this Jew one who`s brought us THIS low..and you WOULD call that "survival"!! Your idea that we should discard our christian religion and adopt the worship of Ashour sounds looney because it will never happen because ti means we will discard the only thing which has helped our survival during the last 2000 years. ..what do you call survival? eating shit so you can live is survibal to you? Ever hear of Honor..as you insist you MUST honor a Jew god as you also INSIST you must break faith with an Assyrian God? Just how diseased do you think you have to be to claim you are any kind of an Assyrian and say such a thing? ..No one is saying revive the religion..YOU are the one who needs dogma and rituals and priests running their hands all over you..the worship of Ashur is not now what it was before...but whatever it changes to will suit our condition today, we WILL voluntarily give up a Jew religion that calls for the murder of our children ands is even right now DOING IT!!! But... it will NEVER become a Jew religion..you can count on that. This intolerance and close-mindedness and casting people out and calls for divine rods and vengeance and murder is Hebrew..you got it from THEM..this is your "new " faith...it was never a part of Ashur and will NEVER BE! ...YOU abandoned Ashur and tied your fortunes to a Jew god every bit as savage today as he was back then...YOU got off of an Assyrian chariot to go peddle your ass around on a Jew donkey cart...did it ever strike you that Ashur lost faith in YOU and sent you to where he knew you would be destroyed by the followers of your "new" faith, who NEVER managed to prevail over Ashur till YOU turned Jew and helped them? The modern era holds great promise for Assyrians..but it has only humiliation and loss for you Christian ones..and you earned every bit of it. You wish to impose your none belief on Assryians regardless of what long term damage they may do to them. Frankly you are the last person in the world which Assryians should turst. Wm Warda ...no one asked for a following,....you are the ones inventing all sorts of schemes and tricks and lies and breathless reports to guilt induce people into joining YOUR UNTITTIES. You are the ones warning us that we won`t be popular much longer, won`t have any friends left if we continue "wrong"...like that`s a serious concern in YOUR friggin heads. All we want to do is ask...who wants to "teach" you anything...we want to counter the lies and Church propaganda you`re putting out as if it`s historical fact and no one helps more than you... ...you aren`t in control here, WE are. You`re the ones WE forced to come out and say these things..to reveal your hidden Church Agenda in the pay of your Christian Masters, telling us that 27,000 murdered Assyrian children, killed by your Christian Masters are just tough luck but TWO killed by Muslims is a "national tragedy" you will NEVER forget!...you have no choice..you can`t keep quiet because the facts, the real ones, we put out there will in time get more and more people thinking...so you`ve called around and gotten all ten of you experts to sit at your consoles ready for any post at all that goes against your lying dogma and shoot it down..only you can`t..all you can do is scream and insult and tell us we won`t be liked and call us names..and that is the BEST thing you could for us. You are doing what WE want you to do...WE are working Aprim`s fingers to the bone...it is Tiglath who tells Aprim.."get up and write , dummy". Same with you...you never posted but here and there and now we`ve enlisted you as well...that`s how "shtrong" you Christian Assyrians have become..you don`t even have Free Will anymore...watch! --------------------- - BACK TO INDEX - REPLY - QUOTE - EDIT - DELETE -

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