The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum

=> welcome to the triangle...

welcome to the triangle...
Posted by parhad (Guest) - Thursday, July 29 2004, 22:21:54 (CEST)
from - Windows XP - Internet Explorer
Website:
Website title:

Ashur bless you Tiglath for the excellent, sustained job of picking apart the Assyrian Front these Christian dogs display. The photo of a child suffering the effects of American Christian Sanctions is "pornographic"..but Sanctions that kill them are a "legitimate pòlicy". Killing Palestinians and stealing their lands...killing Iraqis and spoiling their lands are "policy"...but fighting back in defense of all one holds dear is Terrorism. This is the world these people inhabit where simple truths are stood on end to meet an agenda of death and vengeance....and just when you expected it...here comes Aprim to give his thoughts..once a path has been cleared for the frail darling. How can we ever thank you boys...

You made them at least confront the truth they`d rather hide...

The non-scientific statistics of David Chibo (Tiglath)

...give some scientific proof that you are Assyrian.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Beth Suryoyo Assyrian (Othuroyo) Forum


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Written by Fred Aprim on 29 Jul 2004 20:43:24:

David Chibo (Tiglath) recklessly manipulates figures and uses non-scientific and silly statistics to twist the facts regarding the embargo and how much that affected the Assyrians of Iraq. In the final analysis, he twists the picture to the foreign reader who does not understand the Iraqi society.

...What about Iraqi society spares children from Famine and Disease and Violence..if they are Christian?

...You do not understand American society or know the history or language..that doesn`t stop you from taking advantage of it to spread yourt lies and propaganda. People the world over, a lot brighter than you, know what those figures mean.

While the UN gives figures about IRAQIS in general term, Tiglath foolishly makes primitive statistics and inserts Assyrians in the middle and in a wicked way jumps to conclusions. Yes, there are Assyrians in Iraq and those in Iraq are Iraqis; however, there are many conditions to consider before making any claims in the silly manner David Chibo does it.

...at least you can spell Selli....wiqed was harder...do you get paid by the adjective?

If today's news, for example, reported that 100 Iraqis died because the price of certain medication has sky rocketed and many cannot afford it. Tiglath CAN NOT say, well, since Assyrians make 5% of the population, therefore, 5 from those 100 dead were Assyrians. It does not work that way.

...that is NOT a random sampling...dummy. Nice try. If you limit your subject population to only those in the market or with a need for that medication...you cannot draw accurate inferences based on simple statistical analysis about all those in the population who aren`t in the market for that drug. The drug may be one that is forbidden on religious grounds or for some other reason pertains to only one segment of the population. Sanctions and the starvation and disease they spread were not limited to any segment of the population but applied to every man, woman and child in Iraq.

It wasn`t ONLY 100 Iraqi children who had to eat..it was the ENTIRE population of Iraq that was the target...and in THAT population there are Assyrian Christians..aren`t there? Or else where did they go...to the north?

...If the population of Iraq were made up of Christian Assyrians and everyone else was Chinese...and you applied sanctions to the entire country..it wouldn`t matter WHAT the rest were...the same percentage of Assyrian Christians in that population of Chinese people trapped in Iraq...would be killed...in the same proportion that they make up the total population..of Iraqis, Chinese or French.

Why is it that we do not hear Kurds saying that since this many died in Iraq because of the embargo and we are 15% of the population, therefore, this many Kurds died?

..because they already mentioned the thousands of their people killed by America...as they mentioned those killed by Saddam or ANYBODY else. It is only YOU Christians who hide the dirty work of your Church in using our children to further your agenda. What do the Kurds have to do with it..what does 400 AD have to do with it...what do 27,000 have to do with it?


Why is it that we do not hear Turkomans saying that since this many died in Iraq because of the embargo and we are 3% of the population, therefore, this many Turkomans died? Why is it that we do not hear Armenians saying that since this many died in Iraq because of the embargo and we are 0.1% of the population, therefore, this many Armenians died?

...why don`t you ask them?

No one does because it is silly and non-scientific.

If the population of any country is made up of 50% women and 50% men..is it silly and unscientific to say that a bomb that explodes in the midst of them all will kill half as many of one and half as many of the other? Or wouldn`t it be silly to say the bomb only killed men...or starvation only killed Muslim children? Which is sillier Fred? Isn`t it far more silly but convenient and useful to claim that NO Assyrian Christian children died because YOU or your CHURCH refuses to mention them?

One must at least investigate first and ask, only for example:
In what region where the deaths? Where they in the north, center, of south.
Were the deaths living it a ghetto or an affluent neighborhood?
What groups lived in those regions, how is their standard of living, and who can afford buying somehow expensive medicine and who can not.

...It`s interesting that while you all are quick to rush for information when you hear a Muslim killed a Christian...you look the other way and can`t be bothered to "investigate" when you know ahead of time a Christian killed a Christian. Why has it never been important to you to check so you can settle this issue with something more factual than your mouth and a Thesaurus?

...why don`t you call Majdolin Younan and ask where she was when an American bomb landed on her home? Was she in affluent or in poor? None of you ever wept over her two murdered children...why?

I just do not understand the logic used by someone who claims to be an educated person. With statistics, there are also conditions, exceptions, and factors that MUST be considered. It is not that simple.

...it is that simple when you look the other way and don`t even see something begging for the sort of investigation you say MUST be carried out. Now that the issue has been raised..why don`t you shame Tiglath by conducting such an investigation and writing letters to the UN..god knows you have enough time for every silly thing under the sun.


...you are the simpleist simpleton I EVER met. The Amemricans placed no conditions on their Sanctions...they never called it an embargo...can you get nothing right? They applied the Sanctions to the entire country..north and every other way. We have Christians living all over Iraq..as you never tire of reminding us every time a Muslim kills one of them anywhere...even in Syria. ALL children were affected by uncelan water and no water...by no food or medicine..all hospitals were affected by dual use....

...It`s so damn simple you have to revert to these silly assed "explains". You also had to wait till the coast was clear. You ask for proof yet supply none yourself that Assyrian Christian children were NOT murdered...are the numbers what disturb you?

...Had there been no UN report or ones from Amnesty and the Red Cross..and had we just opined that this MUST be happening..it would be sloppy perhaps...but when we know 500,000 IRAQI children all over the country where children eat and need medicine, were targeted and killed...If 10% of Iraqi Children are Christian...and 500,000 Iraqi children are killed as a result of a policy applied to ALL of Iraqi society...no one who understands statistics would need to investigate further to know that, plus or minus, 50,000 of those dead children were Assyrian Christian children...only a Christian dog in the pay of his Church Masters would claim more information was needed...

...This is so plain that once again all you can do is say it is "silly"...that there is an "agenda"..that someone lacks "education"...when you know goddamned well YOU are the horse`s ass that reads and sounds like he just got off a boat from somewhere.

David Chibo, stop your lies.

...and by all means...Aprim, keep up with yours. Let people decide for themselves....

Fred



---------------------


The full topic:



Content-length: 9306
Content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/vnd.ms-excel, applicatio...
Accept-encoding: gzip, deflate
Accept-language: es-mx
Cache-control: no-cache
Connection: Keep-Alive
Cookie: *hidded*
Host: www.insideassyria.com
Referer: http://www.insideassyria.com/rkvsf2/rkvsf_core.php?.34eg.
User-agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; MSN 6.1; MSNbMSFT; MSNmes-mx; MSNc0z; MSNc00)



Powered by RedKernel V.S. Forum 1.2.b9