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If Christianity...
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...was so convincing...was so much what everyone wants and needs...if it`s so clearly the way to get unheard of benefits..like prime clouds to live on forever..how come Jews weren`t convinced?

This offshoot of their own religion, mind you, born and bred and nurtured among them for centuries... still found only a minority of them interested. A religion, like a culture, grows from within a people...even the landscape and scenery and wildlife and plants can play a hand in filling in its details. That`s what`s so cockeyed about this claim that anyone from another culture, entirely with their own centuries, if not millenia long home-grown beliefs and values and rituals...would chuck it all for Christ. If that were the case...if people who never heard of him or the Jews, a Messiah, Noah and the rest of it, dumped their own ways in a heartbeat...then why were the majority of Jews indifferent?

All Jesus represented, aside from being a nice guy, was some Jews´ notion of the promised Messiah..that`s all. Okay, he turned fish into wine and walked on bread...whatever...so what? That wasn`t the biggie..the biggie was that FINALLY the Messiah had come..to Israel..and the majority of Jews couldn`t be bothered and even turned the guy in.

That being the case...how could people who NEVER heard of him...leave behind their entire religious culture..which back then and for the next 1000 years was EVERYTHING to people..not like it is today...how could, or better yet, WHY would they do that?

The answer is, of course, that they didn`t. It never happened. Where Christianity marks its greatest "success" in Europe followed the path of the Roman roads tramped by the Roman Army...and the new thing was that you HAD to become Christians or else...no more tolerating those funny gods and godesses...it was Christ or your throat...and just to show how murderous these "conversions" were...they killed you even if you believed the wrong way about Jesus...this was something new...forcing religious spiritual beliefs down people`s throats I mean...the Assyrians never did that..neither did the Persian and all the rest of the pagans..except for the Jews..they were the first to kill their OWN people over religious nice points...

And we all know damn well how the New World was brought to Christ...broken, on its knees and bleeding. The story of how New World and African Blacks "became" Christian is clear enough...ans yet, even though they all KNOW how they were butchered by Christ`s shephards...know how their own languages and customs and beliefs and virginity and manhoods and pride was stripped from them by this white man`s Christ...the only version to be kicking ass around the world...Black Americans are among the most devout fools you`ll ever find..no wonder Malcolm was so furious.

So much for the West...that leaves the fairytale land Christians have made up in the East...where they claim there were MILLIONS who happily, joyously converted..only they can`t find any trace or sign of them...EVER. They have their trusty manuscripts but then these same handy scrolls also tell of the sun standing still and fire coming out of Moses`s arse...so you can see the problem there with depending ony sane facts from those kinds of sources.

I`m sure there`s a formula for determining how many of a certain group you would have after say 1000 years if you started out with, oh, about 1000 of them..that`s 500 couples. Course you have to do a little shifty stuff statistically but that`s NOTHING compared to raising the dead. Assuming each couple managed to bring four adult children to child-bearing age..and everyone was boring and straight and got married and spawned...how would this play out?

You`d have to figure some average age of death for the grandaprents...not everyone is going to live 1000 years...and if you discount disease and such...and NO massacres either...how large a population of this group..provided they married no one outside...would you wind up with at around the date the boys say they were all wiped out? I`d venture to say you`d have today`s population, minus any wipe-out..which is an embarrassment..I mean here, in half the world, history tells us clearly that Christians murdered anyone who wouldn`t convert and that isn`t too edifying...and yet in the East, where Christians didn`t manage to have an army at their back..once the Byzantine Empire was gotten rid of...they attracted no one..literally no one...of course there are always a few unsettled nut jobs on the prowl for something new in the way of god...and who might adopt one even if they never heard of him...but no "millions" and certainly no "entire" cultures, cities or nations EVER converted...and the "Christians" who were "massacred" by Islam were Roman soldiers...murderers themselves..and besides in war everyone is trying to kill everyone..it`s hardly personal in the sense that they killed those soldiers because they were Christians...HONESTLY!!!

It`s just hard for the church to be truthfull...as it is to have to be reminded that their religion was spread the way you could have spread any disease..or death even. There is nothing in it that is unique to it except this murdering of Innocent`s and eating them...and of course your reward for this disgusting thing, the childish promise that you`re going to live forever on a cloud...which is an embarrssment and has contributed a great deal to keeping these people infantile, while yet zealous in their passion to kill you too...if you don`t believe as they do.

Kindness, love, decency, justice..all of these can be found everywhere at all times...they are hardly unique to Christianity..in fact they seem noticeably lacking. You won`t get into their heaven being a kind decent person..you MUST partake in that disgusting ritual and you MUST be an accomplice after the fact in the murder that GIVES Christians their heaven...pretty damn weird. It is THIS that makes you an official Christian...no being gentle or giving of yourself...and I believe that`s why it`s been such a bloody scourge all those centuries...it`s followers as well as the religion itself is born in murder...sprinkled with the blood of the innocent..as they never tire of telling us and it gets them looking for what other crimes they might benefit from.

It`s time to let the whole thing go. I know that seems like a lot to ask for but it can be done....and without violence of course..what do they take us for, Christians? Voltaire put a big dent in the church of France..a country that skipped the Renaissance and Reformation too..a country where Christianity`s crimes were legion. He fought them with the power of his pen..with words..with reason and appeals to common decency. And he won...but this is a snake that has to be watched..if you relax your education system they will be back..as we can see they are now...and trying to make their "schools" something we`ll not only tolerate but pay for too.

There is no Muslim conspiracy..there are no Terror networks..there WAS a Christian conspiracy to get the Jews and they formed lots of terror organizations over time to get the job done...now Jews are pets..though they still tell us they control everything. They`re starting on the Muslims next...and getting us all to hate and fear them is the same tactic they used against the Jews..it worked then and it stands a good chance of working again...it`s the Christians folks..the most murderous, bloody scourge the world has ever known..has nothing to do with Jesus...has everything to do with yahwe...the greatest mass murderer the world has ever known.



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