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Re: An Appeal to the Secretary General of the Arab League
Posted by pancho (Guest) - Wednesday, October 4 2006, 15:55:04 (CEST)
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Ashur Beth-Shlimon wrote:
>Dear all:
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>Kindly, take a look on a draft of an APPEAL that should be addressed to his excellency Mr. Amr Moussa, the Arab League Secretary General, Cairo - Egypt by the Assyrian nation.

...the person you should be appealling to is Bush and the pope...they are the ones bringing the damage and carnage to Iraq.
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>An Appeal to Mr. Amr Moussa, the Arab League Secretary General, Cairo - EGYPT
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>It is very essential that as Assyrians to express our views and feelings in a civilized manner, and not try to cover them with deception that doesn’t reflect our situation in any way, a case in point, when the Pope quoted the 14th Century emperor, most of our religious leaders came forward refuting that which doesn’t reflect the reality of our relation with Islam period.

...yes but who cares? You Christians have set the example of lumping all Muslims anywhere as Arabs and then defining the entire religion and its people by the absolute worst elements in it...as you did against the Jews...just imagine taking the Christians of the hog wallers in Virginia or the KKK and presenting THEM as representative of all Christians..that is what you Christians have been doing to islam for the last 100 years at least.
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>It is important to know that the first who criticized Islam was a Nestorian Patriarch from the late 7th century A.D. by the name Khnan-Eshu ܚܢܢ ܝܫܘܥ (684-690A.D.)during a visit by the Caliph Abdul-Malik) 684-705 A.D( who came to Mesopotamia in order to crush a rebellion , the Nestorian Patriarch paid a visit as it was a habit when dignitaries arrive , the Caliph asked him what he thinks about the Islamic religion, the Nestorian Patriarch replied without concealing his motives that it is , “ A political state which was created by the sword, and not a religion which is confirmed by miracles as it is the case with the Christianity and Judaism religions.”

..your miracles are lies and tricks for children...as far as using a sword, no one has murdered more people into a religion than Christians have...you may not know this or wish to admit it but it`s common knowledge everywhere else...who is fighting a war in whose country on trumped charges to continue stealing what from whom?

By such remarks, the Caliph was outraged and ordered someone to cut his tongue, but fortunately the interference of the Caliph‘s entourage spared the Patriarch tongue from such sever and savage punishment,

..it should have been cut, if nothing else but to remind the Christians of what THEY were doing to heretics..that is, their OWN Christians who happened to disagree with them on minor and insignificant points of the SAME religion...on trhe Feast of St Bartholomew in France Christian Catholics murdered ten thousand of their own neighbors and family members in ONE NIGHT..and this act was praised by the pope in Rome.

according to Bar Hebrews /ܒܪ ܥܒܪܝܐ quoted ‘by Joseph Nasrallah , Paulesian Press Library, Beirut, Lebanon 1991 that Sarjoon or the poet Al-Akhtal (Christian Arabs )were the one who interfered on behalf of the Nestorian Patriarch.

..there are many instances of the kindness and generosity of Muslims...in fact had it not been for the Arabs the Byzantines would have killed you all as heretics...but the Arabs allowed you all to believe whatever you wanted about Jesus...so long as you stopped killing each other over him.
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>No question, that the Assyrian power was in decline and never existed during the Arab Islamic invasion in the mid seventh century A.D., but the damages that such INVASION caused to the Christians and here the Assyrian people in particular in the area are beyond imagination to a point that it affected them even though that power i.e.,


...bullshit. It was bands of CHRISTIANS who were fighting and killing each other...the Muslims put an end to it and forced a peace on you...several Christians villages begged Muslims to come save them from the Eastern pope AND their own bishops. It was the Arabs who SAVED your sorry asses...all they asked was a poll tax in return, nothing unusual in those days and a lot more civilized than what the Christians did with those they conquered...the aged, the poor, widows etc didn`t pay anything...Christians looked back on the Arab conquest as a time of peace and prosperity when they were once again subjected to the taxes of the Christians.

the Arab Islamic hegemony came to an end in the middle of the 15th century A.D. or before , because such power came to an end at the hands of those who became MUSLIMS by themselves and carried the torch of Islam to name, the Turcomans, the Ottomans, the Qurds and the Persian Iranians.

...as usual you make sense only to yourself...
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>The Arab Islamic invasion affected the Assyrian a great deal and affected others as well, to name the Arameans, the Canaanites, the Eblaites and the Egyptians.

..and do you thin k Christian invasions are peaches and cream?

It was crystal clear that our Assyrian people and others as well did to challenge occasionally such hegemony which transformed all these concurred people to be under the process of Arabization and Islamization.

...you`re being arhcaic again...do you ever read what you write? This is the sort of "activism" that makes fools of us in the world..you come across as unintelligible, foolish, uneducated but very full of DIMMA SHAKHEENA!!! The same as a new sausage. But who listens to a hot dog?
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>How ironic it is to see an Egyptian, a Syrian and an Iraqi /Mesopotamian try be proud Arab and erase that bright history and culture that stretches over 8000 years span to be replaced by a new Arab one, no matter how magnificent they were, because to us – as Assyrians – our history and heritage is the best as the Arabs think of themselves which we respect that.


...first off Arabs are from Arabia...second within less than a hundred years the Persians became the real power in the Islamic world folowed next by the Turks...actual Arab control of Islam didn`t last long...next: Christian s converted to Islam in great numbers bringing their Assyrian culture with them..as did the Peresians who converted...these cultures never died out but were gratefully incorporated by the Muslims conquerers...the cities in Arabia never flourished the way the Muslim capitals did in Syria and Iraq and Spain...that`s because the Arabs were conquered by cultures they conquered...happened all the time...same was true of Sargon the Great and Hamurabbi...the Arabs incorporated what they conquered and the people of Assyria and Persia JOINED Islam bringing their cultures with them...as you all say you brought your`s to Christianity...there was no "tragedy"...there would have been had the Muslims NOT driven the Byzantines out...the Sassanians were tolerant enough, but they were on their way out anyway...far better the Muslims who conquered Iraq than the Byzantines...for you I mean...Muhammad saved your ass!

>Sadly to say that an Egyptian intellectual by name ‘Professor Shouqi Dheif شوقي ضيف tried to defend the Arabic language and say how the Arabic language have superseded the Syriac language and proudly declared that the victory was to the Arabic the language of the noble QURA’N to eliminate our Syriac language in his writings (History of the Arabic literature, the Era of the Ignorance – العصر الجاهلي page 25).

...you may call it an era of ignorance...but the whole world knows of the Dark Ages when Christians tried to kill the human spirit, if it wouldn`t bend before Rome.
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>It is essential to be familiar with such religion or nationalism, i.e., the Arab / Islamic phenomenon , to read a very important book which is written by a revered Muslim and an Arab scholar by name ‘ Ibn Khaldun , in his Introduction/Moqaddemah المقدمة , where you will find why and what these new invaders from the Arabian peninsula did to change the demographic setting of the Middle East and especially how they were successful to erase two of the most advanced and civilized people , i.e., the Assyrians and the Egyptians.

...they erased nothing...you were busy erasing yourselves for Christ..and the Eastern Empire would have erased you as human beans..as they did to so many heretics and Nestorious WAS a heretic...so were Monophysites...which is ALL you were..for all your nonsense about being Asyrian.
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>To become a Muslim writes ‘W. Montgomery Watt in his book ‘the Majesty that was Islam’ Sidgwick & Jackson, London, 1976:
> “One had to be attracted by Islam as a religion. To become a Muslim one had to become an Arab at least by client ship; and in addition one had to learn Arabic, since for centuries all religious thinking was in Arabic.”

...you had to speak Latin to be a Western Christian...Greek to be an Eastern Christian...you had to speak Aramaic if you wanted to be you...so what?

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>By implementing such harsh policy, the Syriac Speaking people in the Fertile Crescent were almost Arabized and Islamized except in some degree in Assyria where a large of the Assyrian Christian pockets existed, but unfortunately the Ottomans policy during and after the WWI were slaughtered and murdered in cold blood by such inhumane GENOCIDE policy that the Assyrians paid a very heavy price to loose at least one million of the Assyrian population ( see Kak Bajalan, “ Kurdistan Times,” Vol I, No.2, Summer 1992, Fairfax, Va. 22030 ).

..this is your usual crap....this author you cite is no doubt a missionary "intellectual"...you boys always manage to find a handful who back you up all the way to the altar.
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>In conclusion, let it be crystal clear that we respect the Arab nation and the Islamic religion, but we also need in return a mutual respect for our ethnicity, language and religion as well, because such respect never existed up to this time as we speak during the last 1400 years or less since the Arab Islamic invasion and incursion in our homeland.


...you get what you deserve...you deserve the contempt you feel. The Assyrian heritage is very respected and always was...on the official web page of Iraq before this Christian Jihad and Crusade you could see in addition to the Crescent, the CROSS as well asa a Lamasu...what you fail to understand or think to sidestep is that what YOU call "Assyrian" is nothing kmore than Christian to other`s...all you do is make everything Christian "Assyrian"..even that wouldn`t be so bad except the next thing you do is start agitating for CHRISTIAN rights and privilleges under the guise of this "Assyrianism", which you think no one sees through...You have never been persecuted..you have been PROSECUTED for advocating sedition...which is a crime in any Christianm country as well.

>Today, as a result of such savage and inhumane policy, our population dwindled to a degree that in certain places never existed period and it is a tragedy that should be addressed , if such trend continues, in a very near future the only Assyrians will remain ,will be those monuments and artifacts in our homeland ,

..once again, you are talking about Christians NOT Assyrians...Assyrians are alive and well though being murdered by Christians, again. The people of Iraq are ALL descended from the Assyrians and others...you are crying about CHRISTIANS of that region and claiming that only they are "Assyrians"...no one accepts this and never will besides you and your cousins and church members...

and if such thing happen, then the history must reveal the truth and put the blame where it belongs , i.e., on those of the most savages with due respect , i.e., the Arabs who claim, “ that the history never knew conquerors more merciful than the Arabs!”.

...you are a liar AND a fool. Christians were far more protected and repsected in Muslim lands than they were anywhere else...is they were heretics, which you ALL were. You have lost standing, as Christians, because of your sense of loyalty for the very religion which has devasted those lands...imagine a Muslim American NOT being disliked if he let it be known that he was GLAD 9/11 happened followed by a war of invasion by Muslim nations against America...you people have made this mistake once too often of placing your hopes in what foreign Christians would do for you...and you pay the price EVERY time..and you come crying about it EVERY time trying to pin the blame anywhere but on yourselves.


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>I think it is time to act and appeal to his Honorable Amr Moussa عمرو موسى, the Arab League Secretary General by voicing our concerns, opinions and demands to achieve at least the following:

...go whistle out yout your other end...you really going to send this bit of nonsense?
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> An apology from Mr. Amr Moussa , the Arab League Secretary General in the name of Arab nation and Islam as well – because he is a Muslim and preside over 100 million people who are Muslims too- to be presented to our Assyrian nation officially, for the cruelty and abuse that our people went through in the last 1400 years or less, and


...when will Bush aplogize?
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> A proclamation to be issued in recognition that we are the real indigenous people of our land ASSYRIA/ North of Iraq and our Culture, Language and Religion must be preserved and respected by all the Arabs and Muslims alike without any discrimination.

..you are NOT. You are a Christian sect of those people...the vast majority are Muslim Assyrians and they are the ones defending Iraq today.
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>In conclusion, we hope from his Excellency to challenge his preceding Arab and Muslim officials to implement justice and open a new era of reconciliation and understanding in our land that once was called the Cradle of Civilization.

...you are a Hottentot.
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>Note: this draft is prepared by Ashur Beth-Shlimon, an Assyrian activist and Assyrian language editor of two the most known Assyrian publications, the Assyrian Star magazine, the Organ of the Assyrian National American Federation and the Assyrian Sentinel of the Assyrian Universal Alliance.

...you aren`t "best known" for anything except a profound disrespect for the English language and all forms of civilized speech.



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