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Re: Another Tiglath Defamation Case?
Posted by Maggie (Guest) - Tuesday, February 21 2006, 19:11:29 (CET)
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### And I fail to see your connection between my reveleation of Sargon Dadeesho's funding and your irritation.

I wouldn't be irritated if you were an equal opportunity revealer!

There are always two sides of the story. So why don't you now devote sometime to "reveal" the corruption of the otherside. No one is innocent when it comes to being involved up to the neck in corruption and scandal.

>If we are to examine the facts, we would find that the only Assyrian opposition group that the United States recognizes, funds, and legitimizes in Iraq, is Zowaa and its leader Yonadam Kanna, (you know, your master and savior?)

### I have never now nor ever intend to be a member of Zowaa otherwise known as the ADM. I am no fan of Yonadam Kanna either but the people in Iraq deomcratically have voted for him so I feel he is our peoples' legitimate representative in Iraq.

Bull!!! You signed legal papers titling yourself "the ADM representative in Australia". You pretty much gave it away at that point!


### The ACOE has been brought down by corruption within. Period. Mar Meelis teamed up with Karl Suleman and helped in the swindle of over 2,000 Assyrians. Now you're telling the victims that they are at fault for crying "rape."

And Mar Bawai, AKA Ashur Soro was the head of that corruption till he lost favor!

They are financing your trials in Australia and all your attorney fees. They are also the ones that are backing and encouraging another thief, Ashur Soro, who has the same obvious “ Zowaa” interests as you have.

### Are they? First off there has been no trial. Mar Meelis has gone off in NSW and wothout serving me been given default judgement. You should know Dadeesho and Mar Meelis discussed it on AssyriaSat bragging about how I didn't show up......of course neglecting to tell people that I was never served. I have been advised by my lawyer that this was simply a harrasment lawsuit. The lawsuit paid for by the ACOE members and initiated in order to buy Mar Meelis some legitimacy before he went to the US and attempted to knock off Mar Bawai and secure himself the Patriarchate.

I don't give a damn what Sargon Dadesho and Mar Melis said on AssyriaSat. I don't listen to ANY ONE OF YOU. It is all too sordid and wreaks of stale Assyrian garbage! I would have more respect for an individual like you if you had signed the documents as an "individual" not as a representative of an organization. Then it would be a whole different ball-game, not two corrupt organizations trying to topple each other to secure power for themselves.


If the lawsuit was legitimate why hasn't the judgement been ratified in the state of Victoria where I live so that I can defend it in my home state? If they have been awarded $200,000 plus interest then why haven't they collected the money?

Your accusations are no more legitimate than their lawsuit! You were just as involved in the scheme as they were, which makes you an accomplice.
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>You seem to have a grudge against a certain group of clergy in Australia, for their role in Suleiman's scheme, but not recognizing your role and responsibility in engaging in that pyramid scheme, to begin with. Having lost money in that scheme, you are now acting as a sore loser and have signed on to be part of Soro's/Zowaa's campain to bring down any Assyrian who is against this DYNAMIC- DUO. But I don't see you defaming the Soro/Zowaa thieves who are blatantly stealing church properties. Why are you being selective?


### Show me any evidence, such as the evidence that we revealed in the October 5 article, about Mar Bawai and I will gladly expose him as well. Secondly Leonard David, Suzy David's cousin spent months breaking into my hotmail account to steal my private e-mails all to no avail.Dadeesho read out my private e-mails on AssyriaSat for all to see and in all the letters that were read out not one was addressed to ADM(Zowaa) or to Mar Bawai.
Hell I didn't even know who Mar Bawai was at the time!
So your point is moot.

The evidence is in the court as we speak. All you have to do is read the transcripts and you will know Ashur Soro is more of a thief than any one of you ever figured! But you don't seem to be interested in those facts.


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>A thief is a thief.

### So are you now confirming that Dadeesho is a thief?

I was referring to your affiliates that are stealing church properties as we speak, for their own selfish gains. It is Ashur Soro who has designs on the patriarchate, not the other way around! So in my eyes he is just a guilty as Carl Suleiman. Except that he's supposed to be a "Christian shepherd" which makes it all the more disgusting than any pyramid scheme!

Why are you defending one and defaming the other? Is one any better than the other?
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>If you want people to respect you and your "self-righteous" bullcrap, then you must appear unbiased in your approach to the "truth". You cannot be against one thief and not the other. It doesn't work. Otherwise, it will appear to be personally motivated, (as this is starting to) and you lose all credibility.

### I wish my posts could be as "personally unmotivated" as yours.

I have no personal motivation in this whole thing. Sargon Dadesho doesn't read this forum, so I am speaking as an individual and would like you to tell us why you are NOT going after the others? They are all corrupt, so what makes one better than the other? That was my entire point.

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>I have nothing against you or any Assyrian, be it an individual, or an organization. I try to see the good in every human being, no matter how much of a liar, a cheat, or a thief they are. I have met some of the biggest cheaters, liars and thieves that have shown some sort of goodness, be it by the tiniest gesture of human kindness. Mine is not the judgment. Karma does a better job than any of us could ever try to. In any civil society there are laws in place to protect the innocent. And you lost because you did NOT prove your case.

###I lost because I wasn't served. Period. Those with ACOE member money to spend on lawsuits and hire hackers to break into personal e-mail accounts to steal private e-mails can afford to use the legal system to drag people through the courts.

You should have known that going in! You can't be surprised that the church has more money than god. Besides which, you were part of that church, but didn't mind any of it, till you lost money!
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>By trying to defame someone just for the hell of it, is hurtful, and not conducive to the overall betterment of the Assyrians. If we are going to have a chance at success, we must let go of all the old and silly ways Assyrians have been operating with, to break each other down. None of us benefit from such nonsense. We all lose!

### In a Zinda Magazine report on Sargon Dadesho (http://www.zindamagazine.com/html/archives/2005/5.21.05/index_sat.php#zindasays) the source of revenue for the Bet-Nahrain, Inc which fuels Dadesho?™s political machine is said to be the members??donations, memberships, and the bingo games. According to the IRS report in 2003 Bet-Nahrain, Inc.?™s revenues totaled a little over $325,000 and the total expenses totaled over $407,000. Yet the cost of running the Assyrian Satellite program and all other media outlets connected with Sargon Dadesho alone are well-over $50,000 a month, according to sources close to this organization.

It is laughable that you would actually believe anything Zibla Magazine would print. Since when are their sources reliable, when they have a bunch of hoodlum writers and third-grade investigators?

His critics allege that Dadesho may be allowing other more powerful political groups to utilize his media for their political objectives and in return providing him with the much needed funds for the operation of his AssyriaSat television propaganda. For example, two separate programs are cited for their anti-Iranian propaganda in which the presenters speak in Azari Turkish and Arabic inviting their viewers in the Middle East to battle the Iranian government in seceding the Azarbaijan and Khuzistan provinces for the Turkish and Arab people, respectively.

It's all garbage. His critics are jealous as to how successful he has been, when the money THEY collect has nothing to show for it. It's true the Satelite expenses maybe up to $50,000. per month, but that's because they don't rely just on Bingo. The donations keep pouring in because Assyrians are happy to have the world's first satelite going to every Assyrian home in the world! There also other ethnics who buy air time, which generates more income for KBSV. Where as the money his critics collect goes in their pockets. Sargon Dadesho has something to show for the money he collects, THEY don't!

The US had funded numerous opposition groups providing them with funding to establish their own media but work for the US's strategic interests in the Middle East.

That would be Zowaa!

Also consider the recent worldwide growth of AssyriaSat. During the last few years, and since the US invasion, AssyriaSat has expanded greatly and is now accesible worldwide. The U.S. policy requires the Assyrian peoples' compliance in the illegal invasion of Iraq and the current "sabre-rattling" against Iraq's neighbour, Iran.

AssyriaSat has grown because more Assyrians want it, and they are willing to pay for it! Nothing more.

Sargon Dadesho may be an Assyrian nationalist but he is forced to follow orders of his major sponsor in manufacturing consent.

That is absolute nonsense. If you can say that, you don't know Sargon Dadesho. Who is this "secret" sponsor you are alluding to? Facts, please, because you are losing your credibility with all thes "manufactured" lies!

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>It is hurtful when you speak such unsubstantiated nonsense. You already proved yourself to be a liar when you stated that AssyriaSat is funded by the CIA. Not only that, but went as far as to say that because I do a show on AssyriaSat then I must be a CIA agent. This is how stupid Assyrians can be, that's why we have gotten nowhere. For someone like you to defame me for no reason, (not even knowing anything about me) makes you no better than the lowest, uneducated, and illiterate person in the Assyrian community.

>Who the hell are you to try to defame me or anyone else? Why don't you first examine the thugs you hang out with? Is Sargon Dadesho any worst than your RABBI Kanna who is no Rabbi? Or you, who is not innocent in this whole Suleiman scheme? Afterall, you were a willing participant, when you thought you were going to make millions, weren’t you?
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>I am tired of "holier than thou" people like you who have nothing to do but smear people's names for the hell of it. You have to take responsibility for ALL of your actions, good or bad. You can't just be happy if YOU win. And that's what you would have done if you had won in the Suleiman pyramid scheme, not realizing if you win, it's because it is on the expense of others losing! That’s how pyramids work. DAH!!!!!
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>So cut the bullshit and get REAL!!!!!
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>You are no better than any other Assyrian, because obviously you can be bought by the Suleimans and the Zowaa's of this world, and anyone else who smells of the color Green, including bull-crap!!!

### Have you lost it completely? When did I ever defame you or ever call you a puppet? Please show me the post and I will personally apologise!

The only comment I have ever made was after you kept putting down the work that has been done by the AAS in Iraq. Work that I have seen with my own eyes. Work which continues to put food on the tables of Assyrian families, provided Assyrian children with an education. Given sick Assyrians medicine. I merely stated that the reason why you may be so against the AAS is because Dadeesho needs to say black whenever Kanna says white and being hosted by AssyriaSat may mean that you are slightly biased.
This statement has since been substantiated by your vitriolic remarks.

You called me a CIA agent, and never apologized. Furthermore, I never put down the legitimate work of ANY organization, only the ones that manufacture MARTYRS for the sake of elevating their name and status, which is a murderous operation and YOU should speak out aginst it, not condone it. I personally don't want an Assyrian organization that contributes to the death of our youngsters to get more votes and a seat in the Iraqi parliament. We don't want a "Christian seat" period!

I don't see you going after all the other corrupt people, just the select few!



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