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Re: On Ex Bishop Ashor Soro’s Upcoming Tour of Canada
Posted by pancho (Guest) - Tuesday, July 18 2006, 16:16:39 (CEST)
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Concerned Assyrian wrote:
>"These others merely repeat what they were taught...they could have as easily been raised Muslim, Cannibal, Hottentot or Chinese...the first step to being HUMAN is thinking...these people were raised terrified of using their minds...a tape recording was placed in their heads and all they can do is hit "repeat"."

>***If you are referring to me; I must inform you that I do not, as you accuse me, repeat what I was taught. How do you assume we progresses through high school and university without using our brains? I say what I say because I want to say it, not because someone has taught me to say.

...that isn´t true...in the first place, high school and university are merely more of the same..they are the accumulated training of your culture...they don´t dispense education...they train further...their lure is that they "educate"...but they don´t. To educate is to bring out...that is the Latin meaning...to "bring out what is in you"...NOT to stuff you like a Christmas goose.

..I left school in the third grade...decided to go out and get educated instead.

...your words are the same as those of 20 zillion others..you yourself pointed out how common your ideas are...by way of proving them right! You, as a child, ten thousand years ago, would be telling us, "Cannibalism is the only way to go...besides which they teach it in "high school and university".
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>I cannot fathom how you are able to be an Assyrian while I am not worthy of being an Assyrian because I am a Christian.

..your actions for one...your trite and oft repeated words...also the fact that you blithely skip over a host of questions and points raised merely to lecture and talk down your nose..also your penchant for seeing devils wherever you don´t see what suits you...also your use of a anymouse name...no matter what reson you people give we know the truth, somewhere is a person ready to use a rolling pin upside your head if you dare reveal the family name...also the fact that as a Christian, you already have one god, Christ...unless you´re also a lying pagan polytheist, you can´t also be Assyrian...because that would be two gods..besides which you just called the god of our fathers a "Devil"...what sort of Assyrian can you be besides a traitorous and ungrateful one? Would any Jew dare say his ancestral gods, were Devils?

Your mindset, regardless of whatever I argue with you, is that you are a better person, and a better Assyrain than me and others and that I am not entitled to be an Assyrian because I do not worship the "god" which you worship. Your view is that Christians are people who have sold-out the Assyrian Nation and that we should instead be worshipping Ashur and the pagan Gods although, and this is something historical which you deny, the Assyrians did indeed convert to Christianity in Edessa 2000 years ago and whatever you argue and whatever you prove, I chose to beleive this and beleive it I shall.

..because you were taught to parrot it by your parents and priests...not because you learned it in high school or university...it makes absolutely no sense, which is why you like to believe it..because it defies nature and everything we know of human nature, because it stands natural and human law on its head, you believe it because you also believe god works when natural law stops....that the sun is no big deal, but STOP it in its tracks and you´ve got a "miracle", instead a bunch of terrified and ignorant thugs believing nonsense.

...No one...absolutely no one gives up the religion of his or her forfathers...no one...a few individuals MIGHT...as in every religion there are disastisfied people..but the entire people???? No way. That is the lie your church teaches you to believe..it flatters you all to think the Assyrians "saw the light"...they did not...not where Christianity was concerned..absolutely nothing in our past conforms with looking for anyone else to save you...we didn´t even think in terms of being "saved"...that´s Christian crap. While you love to think the Assyrians gave up on Ashur and that this made them even MORE "Assyrian", because they became Christian (what university teaches you to think like this?)...you howl and yelp that NO Christian would or could or should EVER dare think to leave CHRIST..and when your own children do such a thing you damn them to hell and won´t let them in your homes..and if they dare think for themselves, you call them DEVIL WORSHIPPERS, what university did you learn such cheap tactics at???...It´s okay to dump Ashur, in fact you should be PRAISED for it..but dump a jew god? "How DARE you". Right?

Why should I stay on a Forum where every post that I iniate or every comment I make I will have to bear the brunt of your attack as if I were the enemy of your existence without you even knowing me or my thoughts?

...I get attacked all the time...you came onto this forum, uninvited but welcome all the same...you came into our "house" and began calling your host a DEVIL WORSHIPPER, simply because he disagrees with you...and you even said that´s what you were taught by your family...is that nice?...getting "attacked" goes with the territory of THINKING...

well, it didn´t take you long. Like I said, our self-banning system works best...go back to high school.

You simply think, he is a Christian, a member of the Assyrian Church of the East and an Assyrian,

...I stop at the first two, although it was NEVER an "Assyrian" church till a few years ago when your clergy realized they might lose their living if your church came under the heading of Arab Christian"...so they TURNED you into "Assyrians"...under no circumstance would I ever think you are an Assyrian...I think your church played a clever trick on those of you spread-eagled on their altars already...didn´t work on me or several others.

I am against him without even thinking. Is this not your attitude Mr. 'pancho'?


..you are the one who doesn´t think...you merely say you do...but you have skipped past all sorts of points that deserved some thinking..because you don´t know how to do it...you merely refer to the card catalogue placed in your head for an appropriate response..like machines that supposedly have "artificial intelligence"...it isn´t intelligence at all...but people have come to accept that a computer "thinks" or soon will...because it does what they do, what they have been taught is "thinking": things are progammed into them...they wait until a situation arises and then they search their hard drives to find the "answer"...the one PUT in them. Ten billion people think like you do..I am well used to being surrounded by people who think nothing like I do...and I´m comfortable with it and just fine..if the Christian sites would let me on I would battle any number of them until they wept or ran...I´m used to being heavily outnumbered..I know, therefore, that none of you think because ONE person who does can get you up on a chair, your skirts hiked above your knees screaming DEVILDEVILDEVIL! Just ONE who THINKS...and the rest of you go bats.

I can see that you´re being to prepare for what you hope will be a gracefull exit..something like, "well, since you just attack and attack and don´t LISTEN and refuse to LEARN, I won´t waste my time". We´ve heard it and seen it so many times...but go ahead.



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