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Hi Tiglath, Thanks for posting this on here. I opened my email on Friday to find this exchange and I just started deleting, but I was fuming and felt compelled to say something. I wish I could ram Ken's exclamation marks down his throat I find him so annoying. Ashur replied and I answered but only to him just to save everyone from an email avalanche. I should clarify that the law on succession of states (referred to below) may or may not apply because the succeeding state can pick and choose what contracts/treaties it will honor, etc. It's more complex than what I put out here, but I just figure I gave Ashur (and anyone else) something to go google and read up on. Here is the exchange: Ashur says: Your Suggestion : "Dear lovely arm-chair nationalists, go spend every penny you've got and buy every inch of land you can find within existing Christian enclaves and their fringe in Iraq. We can figure out what to do with the land later. Let the Christian presence in Iraq be a fait accompli. This is the time for the Diaspora to put its efforts where its big mouth is. And what a mouth it is". OK! what if we'll by Nohadra ? what are the "garantees" to keep it ? it was ours and we never needed to "buy" it, and we fled because of the surrouding "allies". What we need is a official "garantee", the lands are already ours, registred in the Iraqi records and no need to buy what is ours but the problem is that we need an official law for slef governing, and this is what "arm-chair nationalists" can do instead of oppening offices and making campains to elect speechless representatives. A.G Q replies: Ashur, You are hallucinating. You have no claims to that land. If you read up on international laws you will understand why. You have no claim for the following reasons: 1) Most "Assyrians" today who have land claims have them in the Hakkari mountains. That's basically where all the Assyrians fled from when the Ottoman Empire collapsed. The only "Assyrians" that have claims on land in modern-day Iraq are the "Chaldeans." What a predicament for "Assyrians," la? Unfortunately, you don't have a revered document such as the Bible that tells you that Assyrians are the people of God, well hell, if you were then you'd be called "Isra-El", right? You have one piddley quote in one verse that says something about being the hands of God, whatever that means... But compare that to the whole and that quote dies. You will never get these <http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/ISRAEL_SAILING_FOR_SALVATION?SITE=TXPLA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT> sorts of efforts on behalf of Assyrians. There is no Assyrian Zion. 2) You asked what are the guarantees we keep it: Well, here this is strict contract interpretation. Each person that buys the land made an exchange of money for the deed title to the land, it will be registered in the deed office that Ashur G. owns the land that occupies X and Y coordinates. You will have the deed and you will have the proof that you paid a reasonable amount for it. That will hold up in any court of law. Best of all, if people do this, it won't look like some weird agenda, just some real estate speculators from the West trying to make an investment in land that they think has potential. You would avoid endangering or making targets of the Christians that already live there, which should be our ultimate purpose in the Diaspora --> Not to endanger or make these people's lives more miserable than it already is. 3) You seem to think that you can have some "guarantees" in today's Iraq but you can't. In my weighing the situation, the likelihood that the face of Iraq will change very rapidly is extremely likely. You nor I can predict what is to come, but I do think that whatever does come will be starkly different than what is there now. It is immature for anyone to think otherwise and anyone who has convinced you that there are "guarantees" in politics (or in life) has led you down a dead end, figuratively and literally. 4) The law of succession of states may or may not apply to any "guarantees" that you might get. That is why buying land, having a contract and a clear and free deed for land that you claim to be yours is essential in times of flux. Governments come and go, but imagine if this current government falls and whatever comes next attempts to confiscate all this privately held parcels of land. You have a huge advantage as a group compared to some "guarantee" from an illegitimate government that just wants everyone to just shut up long enough to turn on the electricity and hot water. Are you understanding the difference and the advantages/disadvantages of what you are advocating? I sincerely hope you read more sources and expand your knowledge beyond Assyrian and colonial ones. --------------------- |
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