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Re: The Muslims should apologize firstly
Posted by Tiglath (Guest) - Sunday, September 17 2006, 6:30:28 (CEST)
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Ashur Beth-Shlimon wrote:
>Dear all:
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>No question, we should all condemn the violence and terrorism in all its shapes, but the Islamic outrage about the POPE, is actually giving the solid evidence that Islam is the religion of violence for the following:

*** Be careful Ashur this is the same Pope that was a member of the Hitler youth and the fascist movement responsible for the extermination of up to 6 million of our fellow Semitic brothers. Does it not surprise you that he is now turning against other Semities?

>> All of us knows that the Middle East before Islam gradually became almost Christian, and such process didn't take place by force, but by peaceful means where people became martyrs that much they love their religion.


*** Actually it was not peaceful at all that's just a misconception that we've debunked on this forum on numerous occasions. And may I add that the only way they could ever "convert" us to adapt OUR religous holidays, such as Ishtar and Tammuzmas along with Baptism. Names and places were of course changed to protect the ignorant.


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>Unfortunately, when ISLAM came with the Arab invasion , in a matter of less than 300 years all not became MUSLIMS only, but even were Arabized in language too ,

*** That's very myopic. When the Aramaic desert tribes descended on the Middle East they also intduced a new Aramaicising policy that saw Sumerian eventually replaced by the more pratical Aramaic. Yet you have yet to condemn the Aramaic tribes for forcing an Aramaicising policy upon our ancestors.

and all that was done not by their well but by force and for an Arab leader to be called ' the Sword of God ' I think that clearly indicated what Islam was about, a person like Khalid Ben Al-Walid to be given a nick name ' the sword of Islam ' I thing that spells out clearly, I doubt that SWORD will be used to kiss people , but to chop the heads and here in a WEBSITE of the Syrian city Homs , read for yourself what stated >
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>http://www.homsonline.com/Citeis/Homs.htm
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>In conclusion, we as Christians wish and hope the Islamic countries and religious people come to their senses and they have to apologize firstly to the people of the Middle East for their atrocities which is acknowledged widely by the MUSLIMS themselves what they did in Damascus and other Syrian , Iraqi and Egyptian cities

*** Wars are bad for everyone. Brother kills brother. How easily you forget that the barbaric Crusaders who came to attack Islam ended up turning on the Orthodox Christians and Nestorian of Byzantine.


and here I am going to quote not a Christian emperor, BUT AN ARAB and MUSLIM RESPECTED PHILOSOPHER UNDER the name of Ibn Khaldun :
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>" Finally, these sects crystallized into three groups, which constitute Melchites, the Jcobites, and the Nestorians. WE DO NOT THINK THAT WE SHOULD BLACKEN THE PAGES OF THIS BOOK with discussion of their dogmas of unbelief. IN GENERAL, THEY ARE WELL KNOWN.ALL OF THEM ARE UNBELIEF. THIS IS CLEARLY STATED IN THE NOBLE QUR'AN. to discuss or argue those things with them is not for us. It is( FOR THEM TO CHOOSE BETWEEN) CONVERSION TO ISLAM, PAYMENT OF THE POLL TAX, OR DEATH. " Ibn Khaldun , the MUQADDIMAH ( the Introduction , page 188

*** Thank you for that quote it in fact proves what we've been saying all along that our people did not choose to die or pay the poll tax. They instead converted on mass to Islam for economic reasons just as the majority of our people in Iraq are fleeing Iraq not becuase they are being especially targeted or persecuted BUT because they are leaving for better economic reasons.

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>Finally, we all are depriving to have a peaceful world and especially between these three religions, and I think the first to apologize are the MUSLIMS and they should also CONDEMN BEN LADIN and all Islamic extremes in general where as Christians don't see one single country issuing a condemn declaration to such radical groups.

*** Where have you been for the past 5 years? The majority of Islamic groups, mosques, scholars and even paperboys have been condeming US trained Bin Ladin for years now. They were condeming him when the US was training him and flying him and his fundamentalists into Bosnia to fight against the Serbs.



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