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Re: you want a plot? I'll give you a plot!
Posted by pancho (Guest) - Sunday, June 11 2006, 20:55:01 (CEST)
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Don wrote:
>“---Oh please. I used to think this was an Assyrian “forum” but I remember I stated that at a time of high traffic (i.e. many people posting here). Now…this “forum” looks more and more like a blog…or maybe a joint blog. I'll leave you to your version of myspace. Have fun.”
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>“..we also redefined what Assyrian is...there too your damn religion has intruded itself until you think what is Christian...is ASSYRIAN. You're all religion all the time...it has nothing to do with being Assyrian. I guess the thing is you accept too many things uncritically....cuss words don't prove you've been thinking about anything.”
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>---“You” or your esoteric blog or joint blog has done what it is fighting against. Just like each Assyrian village developed its own pronunciation of things and its own tendencies, you created your own little thing. Here’s what you’re good at: When you don’t like what someone writes, you go into another subject and you accuse me of avoiding the subject.

...you`re making a virtue of your limitations...when you can`t see a connection you assume I´ve changed the subject. Before you can fault Jews you have step back and ask what Christians did to them...no European Jew ever wanted to live in Palestine...not a one of them wanted to give up Berlin or Warsaw for Haifa...if there is such a thing as Zionism, the credit for it goes to Christians...if you torture people enough they WILL fight back...but you can`t blame the woman you tried to rape for being ¨"violent" when she put your eyes out.

...you go back, but only a little...just far back enough to where your prejudices are confirmed...but farther than that you dare not go...that is YOUR problem, not mine. You aren`t radical yet...you don`t go to the root of an issue...you don`t ask why there is Zionism...why and how there is an Israel...but it´s okay...you`re obviously pleased with yourself...so why bother?


I said you make everything out into a Christian thing when in fact, this transcends religion. Religion is used as a gimmick, a cheap ploy…a decoy.

...that´s absurd. That´s like saying WMDs were a ploy, a gimmick...and then leave the subject entirely...sure they were ploys and gimmicks...but to what END? And...what are the consequences right now...they fact that religion or WMDs are a ploy does NOT lessen the number of people killed by such "ploys". You haven`t explained anything or simplified anything by calling them ploys and tricks...you´ve only made a simpleton of yourself.

While you and I sit here and argue about Jewsus and Jesus and Jews and Ashur-ism or Islam or whatever the hell else we have and/or will debate on, the same jerk-offs that run shit sit there and laugh at us that we’re too busy fighting each other (figuratively speaking or literally) to investigate as to who they are, find them, and get them.

..they don`t laugh...if they were in a laughing mood they wouldn`t have bought up the newspapers so we couldn´t be heard...if I was so damn funny and inefectual aina and beth and the AANF wouldn`t be banning and aresting me...they know, if you don´t, that IDEAS are the most potent and also the BEGINNING of anything.

You turn around and tell me I’m talking about Christianity. Nasha, jamee arabanukh…you and your Christianity. I’m talking about the people that orchestrate shit…not who God is and what is Assyrian. You couldn’t reply back to me correctly so you incorrectly accuse me of saying Assyrian is only Christian.

..then tell us who orchestrated the Holocaust...go on. How come you mention the religion of the JEWS...but don`t want to see Christianity mentioned? YOU people stop gassing and killing people and hiding it behind your prince of peace, whom you ALSO wanted murdered so you could get into heaven..and I promise you I`ll never mention your religion.
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>“...being passionate doesn't mean being miffed...there is reason mixed with passion...like you feel for Christ.”
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>---Nice try.
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>“...if you can't see how and why the Jews are even IN Palestine then you can't see much else. The Jews didn't CREATE their new country..it was done for them by Christians....the very same people who'd just gotten through killing millions of them...from its inception Israel was a part of Christianity's FINAL SOLUTION...that makes it a very unique country...of course they are now Players...but not by their choice....had they had anything to say about it European Jews would NEVER have moved to Palestine. There isn't a single ethnic group on this planet that has endured what they have...not even close."
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>---The Jews are in Palestine for many reasons. For one, there were many Jews already there that lived okay with Palestinians. There were other Jews, the European Jews, from which emerged the Zionist Movement,


..."EMERGED"??????????? It just emerged one day????? Have you studied ANYTHING besides Syriac manuscripts? EMERGED?????

as well as Middle Eastern and African Jews. Now, here’s where things get tricky (and that’s why I say things are not clear cut like you make it to be). You’re absolutely correct in your statement about Euro-Jews not wanting to move to Palestine…but not all. There were many that were fainting when Israel was created and longed to go there.


..they did LONG to go there....they were DRIVEN out of Europe...remember? They were offered Latin America as an option...a land only marginally less Jew-hating than Europe...were they supposed to go there? What choice were they given...go on...tell us what choice they had?

The ones that didn’t want to go there were actually being kidnapped and shipped to Israel by other Jews, specifically the Zionists ones with the cooperation of certain ethnic Euros who were so brainwashed by the propaganda they had been seeing that they could not wait to see them go. One reason why they cooperated in doing this was because they thought it would be an effective way in getting rid of more Jews. They figured the Jews will go to Philistine and trouble will brew between them and their Arab neighbors…as is the case today. Essentially, what they were waiting for was for the Arabs to finish what they had started. This whole kidnapping thing is attested to in various sources. I actually read a book entitled, Nadia: Memoirs of an Arab Woman, in which the author, Fay Afaf Kanafani, attests to such a thing happening. This was occurring prior to, during, and after the creation of “Israel.”

...at least you`re consistant in your bigotry...why were Jews being kidnapped into Israel? Could it be that the ones there already knew they would need NUMBERS??? Aren`t Assyrians crying out for others to go back to Iraq...why? To dance? You consistantly leave out the most important parts..the very BEGINNING...just so you can shovel shit at Jews and hide Christian atrocities and crimes those people are STILL paying for.

The Iraqi Jews were actually kicked out of Iraq around 1952. Now, if you are denying Zionist involvement with the creation of Israel then I fully disagree. It is documented that many Zionist Jews had been involved in various governments, specifically the British government – for years and finally used Britain as a tool to create Israel under British Mandate. If you can’t see Zionist involvement then you can’t see much else. I don’t need to accuse them of it. They openly admit it. I am not condemning them nor praising them for the action.

...you load all your venom onto the Zionists...without ONCE mentioning the Christian pogrom orchestrated by the popes for 1500 years to HOUND the Jews to death...I suppose you think it was Zionists who made a last stand in the Warsaw ghetto and that they were "just like that". You make a good American, blind to all except what proves your own yankeedoodleshit.

..Reading books isn`t enough...you need to think about what you read..and it helps if you leave your prejudices at the door...
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>“...that was profound....I was already doing it."
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>---Asab khortkon.
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>"Don't forget to brush."
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>---You don’t forget to brush…and floss.



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