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Shushan again...Ho Hum....
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Written by USofA on 10 Jan 2006 20:33:34:

I am so sick of certain people on insideassyria forum calling all Christians Nazis

...can you not read? Who called all Christians Nazis? What I said was that ALL Nazis were and are Christians...there`s a significant difference in how you phrase it.

..here`s hoping the rest of your thoughts aren`t as ass backwards.


and blaming US for that and spreading hate and bigotry towards Christians and Americans.

...who is "us"...stupid people? If you mean by "us" Assyrians...then my reply is that you are no Assyrian. You give me some proof that you are and we`ll talk.

Pancho, Beezlebub or whatever you call yourself this week, STOP blaming ALL Christians for what Hitler and the Nazis did as you have mentioned over a dozen times in the past few days alone and for years now!

...I blame the Christian Nazis for what the Christian Nazis did...I don`t blame other Christians for what the Christian Nazis did...I blame the American Christians for what they are doing to Muslim and Christian Iraqis, as I blame Christian Americans for what they did to the Vietnamese people...try to remain calm and coherent when discussing issues...it helps immensely.

...you Christians INSIST on refering to ALL MidEasterners who are not Christian as MUSLIM...regardless of ethnicity or nationality, you use their religion as their only important characteristic...yet you become unglued when I reference YOUR religion when discussing YOUR crimes.

How conveniently you forget that it was the US and the rest of Europe that sacrificed the lives of our men to STOP Hitler and his Nazis and the horrors they were doing to Europeans,

...no one forgets it...but it doesn`t end there...Hitler did nothing unusual...he wanted to expand his territory, Liebenstraum he callled..."living room" for the German people...the Jews were a convenient scapegoat...the Europeans wanted more Liebenstraum too...and they wiped out an entire continent to do it...give credit where credit is due...had the West and Europe not rushed off to snatch the lands of other people, leaving Germany well behind...Germany would not have worked so hard at playing catch-up...every Christian nation was stealing land and resources and murdering the native populations, when not enslaving them...the jealousies that led to the First World War spilled over and were never settled..it took the Christians barely enough time to raise another crop of soldiers when they went at it AGAIN...the First World War presented us with the odd situation of ONE Christian Royal family deciding to play chess among its members to see who`d win...Queen Victoria was aunt to the Russian Czar AND the German Kaisar...as well as mother of King George...this was a royal squabble and land grab between relatives in which millions of people turned "enemy" to each other who had NOTHING to gain and EVERYTHING to lose...millions of farmers and peasants who all had far more in common with each OTHER than they had with their fucking kings and popes were killed for nothing.

...Hitler simply played out the next stage...he wasn`t alone..the Italians cooperated as did the French and even America turned its back and turned away Jewish refugees..it wasn`t JUST the Germans..it was all of Europe, all of them CHRISTIAN who finally played out the Church`s centuries old call to a GRAND Pogrom....Hitler just DID what the others wished to...he was popular with the upper classes in England and France and the United States...even Lindbergh was charmed as were most of the intelligentsia...the LAST thing Hitler was was a "monster"..it suits you all to call him one NOW..but back then he was the darling of the CHRISTIAN European AND American world.

...Therefore Christians brought the first world war and the NEXT one on THEMSELVES...it was a Christian War waged against CHRISTIANS...something European Christians had been doing for centuries...who exactly am I supposed to be "grateful" to?


especially the most horrendous of horrors to the innocent Jews of Europe. And the only place today that I see that kind of hate for Jews that Hitler had is in brainwashed Arab fanatics and throughout the middle east Arab world.


...Arabs and Muslims have never HATED Jews and don`t now..that is Christian propaganda in order to hide the fact that it is Christians who hated them to DEATH. Muslim lands were the ONLY places Jews werwe welcome and protected...among the Christian nations they were hounded and robbed and murdered regularaly..thrown out of England, France, Portugal and Spain at different times...these things NEVER happened among Muslim nations.

..If Muslim nations are pissed at Israel today it is because of what Israelis have DONE to them...not because of who they ARE...had there NEVER been any Jews and had the people of Bali decided to create a Bali in Palestine and do what the Israelis have done to Muslims AND Christians..the Palestinian people would "hate" the Balinese..or ANYONE who did what the Israels are doing...it was not the Palestinians who tortured and murdered millions of Jews..it was the EUROPEAN CHRISTIANS...so why the fuck should ANY Muslim be forced to pay the price of Christian crimes? The ONLY Holocaust in History is the one visited on the Jews...by CHRISTIANS.

But do we ever hear you condemn that happening TODAY, NO, but you constantly condemn the PAST and falsely ALL of Christianity because Hitler (who hated Christianity for your information)

..he did NOT hate Christianity...he was born IN it..his parents were Christians, his teachers, friends and neighbors were Christians..he went to a CHRISTIAN church...and lived in a Christian country surrounded by other Christian nations that ALL had a history of torturing and murdering and hating Jews.

..what is happening today to condemn MORE than the continued crimes of western Christianity? Who is waging a war against people and their children BUT a Christian nation and its Christian pals? Who PLANTED the remnant of the Jews they could NOT kill and burn on Muslim lands if NOT Christians? Had there been no CHRISTIAN Jihad to wipe all Jews off of the face of Europe there would have been NO need to "settle" any of them on Muslim lands..and without THAT injustice, there would be no "terrorists" bullshit in the MidEast and NO excuse for America to be waging a war against its own Constitution and on ANYONE anywhere in the world who will NOT take orders from Washington.

was an evil murderous genocidal psychopath who fed on Germans centuries bred bigotry like we see your antiChristian bigotry feeding off of hate!

...nice try. I`m not a Christian..I don`t hate anybody...I merely point out YOUR bigotry and race hatred. The very SAME lies and distortions used once to justify the murder of Jews who were ALL demonized by Christians...the kinds of lies Christians DON^T want to be reminded they were peddling barely 60 years ago...are NOW being used wholesale against Muslims...your NEXT target.

And incase you never read a history book, Hilter also bombed Britain nonstop and terrorized all of Europe, warring, murdering, stealing from them and yes to CHRISTIAN Europe he did his evil.

..and in case YOU should ever want to read a book, there is NOTHING new in Christian murdering Christian...in history NO ONE has killed more Christians than OTHER Christians...history is replete with the unheard of barbarities Christian has committed against Christian...the list is too long to mention in toto...just one..the pope rang te deum on the day after the Feast of St Bartholemew in which ten thousand CHRISTIANS were murdered in 24 HOURS by their CHRISTIAN neighbors and family members...that`s just ONE...so it means nothing to pretend to be "shocked" that Hitler attacked Christians...when the Christians of Europe managed to kill every Jew and Muslim they turned on EACH OTHER and kept right at it...you people LIVE TO KILL.

He just saved his most horrendous evil for the poor Jews. The Jewish people are grateful to the Americans for stopping Hitler before he killed them all.

..the Jewish people are AFRAID to tell you what they really think...they have been reduced to dependence on America...there is no way in the world they are grateful to Christianity...during the war Jewish American leaders BEGGED Roosevelt, even offred to PAY, to have the killing camps bombed...but he refused. Everyone KNEW what Hitler was doing...and they WANTED him to do it! Jews are terrified that those bad old days could come again...they`ve been placed in an impossible position, forced to make nice with the VERY people who either tried to kill them all or stood by and watched...America did NOT go to war to save a single Jew! On top of which they`ve been forced to turn against the ONLY people and religion, Islam, that befirnded them all those dark, horrible years they were trapped among Christians.

So your current and constant statements about ALL of CHRISTIAN Europe being responsible for what Hitler did, shows either your ignorance or your brainwashed fanatic hate!

...you people are the ones who hate. You just don`t like being reminded. Christian crimes have drenched the modern world in blood. In the last 100 years alone you Christians have been responsible for the murder of MILLIONS of people who never did a THING to you...you hate each other worse than you hate anyone else. Name any Muslim or Pagan crime in the last 100 years that comes anywhere CLOSE to the catalogue of horrors you Christians have unlñeashed on the rest of us, never mind yourselves...go ahead...name ONE.

Yes, we were naive to not realize that we needed to get involved sooner to stop it all together but I guarantee you that we would have if we knew the scope of Hitler's insanity,

...bullshit. He SAID it...he WROTE it! It was all in his BOOK! There was no surprise...all of Europe knew...America KNEW! This is merely a poor attempt to re-cast yourselves and your American lovers as the good guys...if what you say is true America would have accepted that ONE boatload of Jewish refugees from Hitler....ONE boatload..just ONE! Hitler knew who he was dealing with..he told the world..."you want to save the Jews,....HERE...take just ONE boatload"...and no one did...that ship sailed to EVERY Christian port and was turned away...including the United Christian States....and returned to Germany where all the Jews aboard were put to death...by CHRISTIANS.

...no one likes a mirror held up to them. I don`t blame you for twisting in the breeze like this...but that doesn`t change what Christians have DONE...who gives a shit what they SAY!

just like maybe now the opposite happened and we overreacted to AlQuedes insanity... or maybe even now we are being naive for I read a lot of antiAmerican antiChristian hate from your forum,

...lots and lots of Americans feel the same way...Bush is anti-America..not me. Benjamin Franklin would have shot Bush in the head...TWICE!

and others and it makes me realize that there is an agenda and a system out there filling people with pathological HATE!

..and there are hospitals where you can check in.

And that is what allowed Hitler and the Nazis to come to power and do atrocities, HATE and NOT Christianity!

...The Christian Church TAUGHT hatred for the Jews for CENTURIES..it`s no secret...just nothing you want to remember...the last pope even went to the wailing wall in Jerusalem to beg forgiveness for the crimes committed by Christianity against the Jews...

And Hitler was NOT a Christian,

...yes he was. You can bet your spotty mind that had Hitler been Muslim..you would say nothing BUT..."Hitler was a true MUSLIM".

he was his own religion and he believed in paganism and an Aryan God like race and he CHOSE a crooked cross to fullfill Nostradamous as him as the antiChrist and to spite and be the OPPOSITE of REAL Christianity.

...all of it your bullshit...the teaching of the early church fathers is filled with hatred of the Jews and the debate raging then was whether it was best to kill them all outright, or save them to be used as a constant reminder of what happens to those who "refuse Jesus"...by periodically harrassing them and making their lives hell...the "compassionate" side won..and since that day Christians have made the lives of Jews HELL on earth...until Hitler stepped up to the mark and carried out the FINAL SOLUTION...and the pope was as pleased as a pig in shit.

So why when you go on and on about what you call Christians cooking Jews, do you not mention that it was Pagan Nazism that did that and that they did evil to ALL of Europe and that if not for the USofA you would be doing statues of Hitler.

..it wasn`t paganism at all..it was pure Christianity...no pagan taught hatred for Jews...the church did that...the record is clear...you`re just in denial of your Shushan ass.

And don't you think Hitler would have made his way to the Arab world and if he had, you can bet the USofA would have saved them from him, just like they are trying to save them from the Osama Bin Laden's who are the modern day Nazi's trying to impose their extremism and they just replaced the Master Race with the Master Religion.


Osama is no Hitler...Bin Laden and the rest of the Muslim world does not like what is being DONE to them..they could care less by whom..if Martians were doing this, Muslims would "hate" them...would hate what they were DOING to them. It is the United States that HATES darkies...they just do it in a cool and collected manner...and that`s supposed to fool anybody...there isn`t a bloodier nation on earth than the United States...you`re just on the INSIDE and aren`t aware of the price the rest of the world is paying for your "envious lifestyle"...naturally you all think there MUST be something WRONG with anyone who doesn`t want to be "liberated" by America.

But blind fools like you have been brainwashed to hate America, Christians and Jews to twist the truth to demonize them and it is foolish ignorant minds like yours that just like Europe,

..it is you Christians who hate Jews...it is you Christians who are leading a jihad against Muslim nations...it is you Christians who just starved to death over 600,000 Iraqi children...no Muslims has EVER done such a thing.

will find itself run over by ideological nutcases like Hitler, because you have so much hate for something you were brainwashed to hate like your hate for Christianity.

...Christianity HATES...not me. I dislike BEING hated. You people can`t bear it when someone defends himself against YOUR bigotry and hatred.

Fanaticism is the enemy no matter whose religion it is and you are too blind or brainwashed to realize that. Please stop associating the Nazis with all Christians and America given how many of our fathers, grandfathers and great grandfathers were lost fighting in that war in Europe to STOP the Nazis!


..it was religious war BETWEEN Christians...like so many before it. Your wars have cost the REST of us horrible suffering...fuck you ALL....don`t come expecting praise because one team of Christians beat the other team of Christians. Go kill each other and leave the rest of us alone.

If the terrorists ever invade your ass in Mexico, the USofA will be the first ones to save you all down there!

...bullshit. Mexico has done nothing to Iraq or Palestine...there is no reason for anyone to attack here. There is EVERY reason for Jews and now Muslims to despise what American government does...to our credit, the Darkies of the world do not hate America or Americans...we just wish you weren`t so DAMN stupid as to allow such assholes to gain control of the Treasury and the Military in order to pad their fat ass bottom lines some more.

So wake up and realize that democracy and religious freedom is the only thing that will secure the world from terrorists AND imperalists... see both sides of the problem or you ARE the problem!

...the little you understand of democracy shows in your posting to me where I can`t respond....this cowardly behavior on your parts, as well as your religion of death, a religion BORN in murder, makes you a poor example of anything any rational person would listen to...check ye into a nut ward or jump!



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