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Dr. Brian Schmisek, professor at the University of Dallas, says Errico’s assertion that Lamsa’s bible is the “original Catholic bible” is wrong.

“Catholicism has always been one Holy, Apostolic church; the gospels were written by the apostles in Greek.”

Errico disputes this saying why would they translate from Greek when they had Aramaic and why did the New Testament include many Aramaic phraseology if the apostles weren’t speaking (and writing) in their native tongue?

“There is no original Aramaic version of the New Testament or original Aramaic version of the Bible because the New Testament was composed entirely in Greek," Schmesik rebuts.

Evidence shows Aramaic texts do go all the way back to the Targums; Hebrew translated to Aramaic, B.C.). Schmisek agrees "The Dead Sea Scrolls are the oldest biblical texts we have ... -- they are in Aramaic.“

Does this lead one to say biblical writers of the times were literate and documented much in Aramaic?

“Dr. Errico is using a translation of the Greek--an Aramaic translation of the Greek," Schmisek responds.

Errico says he used the ancient Peshitta texts, known to be at least as old as the Greek, as well as other ancient manuscripts.

But the real controversy comes in Errico's interpretations. He says Jesus was the son of man, the “Meshihah” (Messiah), a provincial prophet on a mission to teach God’s word, that he was a spiritual genius mighty in word and deed but Jesus was our savior but not our redeemer by the cross, which some say presents a real blow to western Christian belief.

In other words, says Errico, Jesus never ever spoke sacrificial language “first of all that word redemption and redeemer is incorrect, the Aramaic does not use that word."

Errico, in that refusal man crucified Jesus -- it was not God's plan. He says why would God be unwilling to sacrifice Abraham’s son and then decide to sacrifice his own?

Thus, Errico says the question is not who was Jesus but rather what was he about; what was his mission, "He didn't die for our sins, he died because of them."

Schmesik disagrees, saying “Jesus was crucified, died and on the third day rose again.”

But when pressed about the event as witnessed -- according to scripture -- Schmesik adds “Paul, who says he’s seen the Lord never gives us a description of it; the Gospel of Mark ends without a resurrection appearance … but it’s what Christians believe.”

“Our faith is based on the Apostles. In one sense, it’s not built on the faith of Jesus, it’s built on the faith of the Apostles. The Apostles preached to us about what Jesus did and said. If you don’t believe that, you’re not a Christian,” Schmesik continues.

Errico says that just means you would not be a “new thought” Christian.

Part of the problem is rooted in the fact that Jesus, after his crucifixion, was deified as Lord as a justification for his death; that Jesus didn't become Lord in a liturgical sense until about the 1st century A.D.

Errico says Christians (mostly Jewish Christ followers) had to try and explain why the son of man or the son of God died in such a way. Old Hebrew tradition regularly used blood sacrifice and this would’ve made sense as an explanation for Jesus’ death for the atonement of our sins, but that Jesus never said that.

“His message was not the cross. His message was the kingdom of God coming here and now."

Errico adds there is no heaven or hell in the Western sense of the two being specific places in the universe. Hell is an Aramaic idiom that means mental torment -- when you do something wrong you suffer for it.

So the question becomes: how does one suffer for it? What then, is the great reward of being saved?

Errico says: "The reward is here not when you die. God doesn't reward, God doesn't punish. He (Jesus) did save us, but he saved us by his teachings and if we don’t follow his teachings you’re not saved at all.”

For a complete understanding of Errico’s work and teachings, visit his website for the Noohra Foundation, which he began in 1970 to continue Lamsa’s work after he died in 1975.

Errico has since published 10 books in the U.S., two in Germany and one in Italy. His most recent book, “Aramaic Light on Galatinans Trough Hebrews (A commentary Based on Aramaic, the Language of Jesus and Ancient Near Eastern Customs)” was published in 2005. His newest work, "Aramaic Light on James Through Revelation" should be published this fall.

Errico's works have been derived by Lamsa's work, the Peshitta manuscripts and an assortment of other source materials from various museums including the Smithsonian and the Vatican Library.

Although books and materials can be purchased through various religious institutions such as Unity Church, all of the Lamsa/Errico materials including CDs, DVDs and books are sold through the Noohra Foundation.

Errico continues to lecture for colleges, civic groups and churches across the world and was recently inducted into the Collegium of Scholars at Morehouse College.



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