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"Assyriian" Facist Organization Tries Again....
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Wednesday, August 12 2009, 21:52:11 (CEST)
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...the neo-Nazis over at aina have sent this around.....

> Guest Editorial: Mr. Obama, What About the Christians of the Middle East?
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> GMT 8-9-2009 0:0:40
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> The oppression of the Iraqi Christians started when Arabs occupied the land in the seventh century. Their method of wiping out Christianity from the region involved the implementation of a simple rule: either convert and follow the Islamic banner or pay heavy taxes (which many Christians could not afford) or face war.

...more bullshit. As we saw, not even that educated hero, Ashur Bet-Shlimon, could produce ONE instance, from actual history and not Church propaganda, to show that any such slaughter ever took place. There was fighting, of course...but since when have Christians refused to fight other Christians that we must condemn Muslims for doing so? Muslims SAVED the Christian sects of BetNahrain..it was the Christian Romans and Byzantines who would have killed them..ot forced them to convert to Orthodoxy...do these people know nothing of history or do they think no else does?

...No Christian faced "war" for not converting...war was made for conquest....after the war the Christians were left in peace...amny of them enjoying it for the first time, free from the attacks and persecutions of other Christians....Muslims care nothing for all the arcane details for which Christian joyfully murdered Christian...the Muslims care only for civil peace and order...allowing each sect to go its own way in peace...as we can see today, the sects fight each OTHER far more than Muslims ever interfered with them.

...as to taxes, yes....Christian paid an additional tax. But that was still preferable to the total destruction Christian armies would bring...plus which the tax was graded to people's means...widows, orphans and the poor paid no tax at all....tax in war-time is nothing to wail over....Christian converted because it suited them better...they would get along better and be able to advance in that superior society...the poorest villages remained Christians...and it's from the dust heaps of these villages that todays fanatical bigots come from.
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> Looking at more modern history, the first genocide of the 20th century began on April 24, 1915. By 1918, 2.65 million Christians including 750,000 Assyrians, 1.5 million Armenians, and 400,000 Greeks were killed by the Ottoman Empire and the Kurds. The Assyrians called this genocide "seyfo" which means sword. In 1933, the massacre of Simmele, in Northern Iraq, resulted in the death of 3000 Christians at the hands of the Iraqi Army. This was the first atrocity committed by the new Iraqi state under after gaining independence from the British in 1932. My village Tin, in Northern Iraq, shared a similar fate in 1961.

...more bullshit. The vast majority of dead Christian in Turkey died as a result of starvation and disease....besides which one could more easily believe these claims were real and true and not mere propaganda if these Christians included the hundreds of thousands of Christians killed by CHRISTIANS in just the last few years...but since they never mention these victims, because they were killed by Christians and not Muslims....we can pretty well understand that their purpose is to spread racial hatred and bigotry and not a plea for "justice".
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> The American occupation in Iraq did not end the struggles of the native Christians. Under the watch of our Democratic government and the newly established Iraqi government, Christians continue to face persecution. Here is a list of some of the acts of violence committed as reported by the Assyrian International News Agency:

...You have forgotten how often you insisted that this war would LIBERATE the Christians and save them from Saddam....and now you are still wailing. Muslims of Iraq have suffered far more than have Christians...until you care for ALL the people of Iraq you're simply partizans of your Christian sects...not humanitarians as you like to present yourselves.
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> * A two month infant was kidnapped, beheaded, roasted, and returned to his parents.

...how many American children have been murdered by their own parents in the United States in just the last year??? And how many Iraqi children have been starved to death by the Christian nations....and returned to their parents for burial
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> * 14 year old Ayad Tariq was considered a "dirty Christian sinner" and decapitated.
> * Fr. Paulos Iskander (Paul Alexander) was kidnapped, beheaded and dismembered.
> * Five priests were kidnapped and released after ransom was paid. Five other priests and three deacons were murdered.
> * 59 churches were attacked or bombed since June 2004: 40 in Baghdad, 13 in Mosul, 5 in Kirkuk and 1 in Ramadi.
> * At least 13 young women were abducted and raped, causing some of them to commit suicide.
> * Female students were targeted in Basra and Mosul for not wearing veils; some had nitric acid squirted onto their faces. Elders of a village in Mosul were warned not to send females to universities.
> * Mahdi Army circulated a letter warning all Christian women to veil themselves.
> * Christian businesses were targeted. 95% of liquor stores were attacked, defaced or bombed. 500 Assyrian shops in a Dora market were burned in one night
> * Children were kidnapped and forcibly transferred to Arabs and Kurdish families.
> * Property was confiscated by Kurds in the North and in the south by Shiites and Sunnis.
> * Kurdish authorities forced public works projects to divert water and other vital resources from Assyrian Villages to Kurdish villages.
> * While the Arabs protest for one Muslim killed in Europe, they are silent for what happen to the Christians of Iraq, the people of Darfur, or the Coptic in Egypt.

...and all this came about because YOU, not the Christians of Iraq, filled our ears with stories JUST LIKE THESE when Saddam was in power....and now, after encouraging and inciting another attack against peaceful Muslims nations and the understandable resentment among Muslims this brings..Muslims who've seen THEIR children roasted and murdered and starved to death for no reason at all...you want the world to feel sorry for YOU???? These things never happened UNTIL the Christian attacked Iraq and brought death, rape, humiliation and ruin to innocent people....to our NEIGHBORS and friends in Iraq....these acts are a direct result, not of Islam or Arabs but of the unjust war brought by CHRISTIANS...for the last 18 years!!!
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> Yes Mr. President, I did like your message to the Arab world in Cairo. I am not against your action of praising Islam or the Quran, but you failed to address their oppression against non-Arabs or non-Muslims who live in the Middle East. We build 12,000 Mosques in the United States, and many thousands more in Europe, yet not one church is allowed in Saudi Arabia. Mr. President, you failed to ask why. I know the answer, because we are infidels and forbidden in their land.

...churches are not allowed because the Christian world has repeatedly ATTACKED the Muslim world...and used it...and robbed it. Also because Christians are proud to be Evangelical...which means they harass and annoy and badger people to convert to their religion..often by insulting native religions...your churches do not live in peace...they attack and belittle each other AND any other religion which they see as "wrong". For these reasons you are not allowed to build churches..because always after come your missionaries and then your Marines.
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> I know we are a democratic and civilized nation and they are not. I know we are strong and forgiving while they are weak and loud. We should not have to improve our image to the Middle East, for we have freedom that millions of Arabs and Muslims enjoy and take advantage of. I have lived in Iraq for 33 years; I know how they treat their people in the streets and in the prisons. Their prisons are many times worse than what occurred in Abu Ghraib. In your message you try to build a bridge to the Islamic world, but you left the non-Muslims in the Middle East angry and alone. They deserve your support, they love freedom as much as we do, and now they face extinction. Fifty percent of the Christian population has left Iraq with the other half facing the continuation of a long, bitter genocide -- and it will be under our watch. An Islamic nation without Christians, a Middle East without diversity, will only become more radical.

...Christians have left because Christians have brought war..this has naturally made Iraqi Christians suspect and resented..also not trusted...although mostly because of what you people outside have done...Christians have never been attacked JUST for being Christian...regardless of your personal feelings this is historical fact...you people are resented for what you DO, not what you believe.

...every cruelty...every form of backwardness and feebleness and violence you decry in Muslim lands today was once accepted practice among Christians...and yet you would have resented like hell anyone attacking America to force it to treat its women better..or give equality to its minorities...or workers.

...when outside meddling by Chrisdtians ceases, that's when the MidEast will grow and expand.
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> By Paul Batou

...you are a racist...a bigot...a propagandist for your sect and church. Not until you care about PEOPLE, regardless of their religion or color or ethnicity can your claims to being a humane man be taken seriously.
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> Paul Bato is a native Iraqi artist. He is a 1982 pharmaceutical graduate of the University of Baghdad. He was denied entry to the Baghdad Art School because he was not a member of the Ba'ath party. He continued his arts studies while in pharmaceutical school. His first art show was in Baghdad in 1980. In 1982 he was forced to work as a pharmacist and a medic during the Iran-Iraq war for five years in the army. When it ended in 1989 he left Iraq with his family and moved to Los Angeles, where he continues to create art. In 2007 he published his first book of poetry, titled My last thoughts about Iraq.
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