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Defending www.shrara4u.com

Posted by Assyrian61 (Guest) baghdad61@yahoo.com - Friday, February 2 2007, 23:58:58 (CET) from 75.4.172.139 - adsl-75-4-172-139.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net Network - Windows XP - Internet Explorer Website: Website title:

Not defending the web site www.shrara4u.com; but, about the truth. The balance of justice and truth “integrity” between Dictatorship Zowaa & Defrocked Zoro. By: Yousef Matawy Source = Voice of Iraq – January 26, 2007 http://www.sotaliraq.com/articles-iraq.php?id=44628 Opposing the beloved Holy Assyrian Church of the East Since the inception of launching the update for our web site, the truth www.shrara4u.com and the resurrection is uprising against the web site and its team, and of course with accusation to our beloved Reverend Emmanuel, that he prepared, updated, and launched the web site!! Poor Reverend Emmanuel, a blessed exploitive critic and rejecter of Dictatorship Zowaa for the past 15 years. What a suppressive rejecter for the rebellion movement of Defrocked Zoro for more than a year of which he is accused that he is behind the public refusal or criticism!! Political game exposed. Politician’s message exposed. The purpose from the statement is that all sons of Assyrian nation (or [Cheldo/Assyrio as called by Dictatorship Zowaa], and all sons & daughters of the Assyrian Church of the East (and remainder of the churches) are content & in acceptance and agreement & corroborative with Dictatorship Zowaa & Defrocked Zoro. Furthermore, no one from the sons & daughters of our Assyrian nation and the Church (ACOE) criticizes or refuses or denounces any work or situation or position of Dictatorship Zowaa & Defrocked Zoro, with the exception of the raved Reverend Emmanuel, the troublemaker!! For God’s sake, we say it is enough!!! Conversely transient that everyone knows that the area and patch and ways of the criticism and the refusal and the denunciation for many errors and ill practices (and how extensive they are) of which were and are done by Dictatorship Zowaa & Defrocked Zoro and their advocates is a huge area and very spacious horizontally and vertical. Reverend Emmanuel is one person between plenty of advocates. Perhaps his multi activities are more than others, and perhaps his is well known persons more than others and perhaps his possession for plenty of information more than others; makes him in front as a target. However, he is not the only son of the Assyrian nation whereof refuses to keep quite on the grave errors and destructive ill practices of Dictatorship Zowaa & Defrocked Zoro. www.shrara4u.com web site, and in the fresh sight about matters technological especially in retention or purchasing the web site, transient important is its preparation and its update and the substances which are in it and the effort and devoted time needed for gathering and consolidating and publishing it is very big by far from to assume that only one individual personified it. To describe the web site as if it is a personal matter for this one or that one for the purpose of orientating the public’s sight about the truth and the huge services which gives the way to expose the real face, moral, and political origin of the advocates of Dictatorship Zowaa and Defrocked Zoro & his rebellion. Below are some important observations and the comparisons for the reading: 1- Why the Assyrian Dictatorship Movement allows and stirred Defrocked Zoro’s dissenting movement. (Both movements does not exceed 30 year in age!) with their handful advocates to spread harm & hate and to fabricate incrimination & traitor-ship to the Holy Assyrian Church of the East, starting with His Holiness the Patriarch and all Archbishops and the Bishops and wide collection of her priests. For denial & jealousy to the Holy Assyrian Church of the East which has deep roots and over two thousand years age & customs, to see her sons & daughters protect & defend her holiness against these filthy abusers. Dictatorship Zowaa & Defrocked Zoro with a clear plan stirs their advocates to attack the Church (ACOE) & its leadership in cheap ways & defamation to harm are constantly directed towards the Church (ACOE) and its leadership. The sons & daughters of the Assyrian Church of the East chose and in acknowledgment and faith to support and defend it and by attending its activities in huge numbers in all different events, spiritual, ritualistic, cultural, social, informational, general and etc. Isn't the balance of the truth and justice clear in this comparison? 2- Why does Dictatorship Zowaa & Defrocked Zoro allow for their advocates to use filthy harm toward the Church (ACOE), and they become silent about this harm in spite of their complete knowledge and their consciousness in the matter. Furthermore, in their best defense, they say that they have no relationship with these advocates, and they tell them not to speak of any harm!! The Iraqi slang proverb says: “La Be-Allah Sar Zahma. “Oh my God!! Are you for real? !!” Who is going to believe your claim that you have nothing or any relation to do with all of this mess? Isn't it Dictatorship Zowaa in relationship with Younadam Youkhana “parking lot idiot” manager of Dictatorship Zowaa’s electoral campaign? !! Isn't it Dictatorship Zowaa in relationship with Ashur Banipal “an idiot that does not deserve such holy name” a representative of Dictatorship Zowaa in Austria? !! Isn't it Dictatorship Zowaa in relationship with Sam Darmo “Khmara D Arizona”, the official spokesman for Dictatorship Zowaa in Arizona? !! Isn't it Dictatorship Zowaa in relationship with Agnes Mirza and Yousef Aprem Aama and the rest of the scrupulous list? !! Isn't it there a calculated coordinating efforts between Defrocked Zoro and William Youmaren “Khmara D Chicago Suburbs”, and Adad Ahamaqseen ”Khmara D Chicago”, and Sargon Morano “Moran” and the rest of the scrupulous grimy list? !! Why does Dictatorship Zowaa & Defrocked Zoro allow such harms, slander, fabricated lies, and disgracefulness against the church (ACOE) and its Holy leadership? For their jealousy & denial towards the Assyrian Church of the East, that a group of her fearless sons & daughters come to its rescue to protect her from the harms by exposing the abusers, not by fabricated lies and false allegations; but, by these real recorded voices & testimonies of these scrupulous mucky insects. Isn't it balance of the truth and the justice clear in this comparison? 3- Why does Dictatorship Zowaa & Defrocked Zoro finds this matter antagonized and within freedom of speech & opinion?!! For their advocates to launch television and radio programs broadcasting in California & Chicago for the harm, propaganda, false allegation & fabrication, and the verbal insults against the Church (ACOE) and it leadership. They continue day and night in Pal-talk rooms of dialogue on the Internet to spread these harms and the filthy insults. They launch several internet web sites & forums “The Mesopotamian Forum, AINA, ZINDA, and etc.) for their circulation and their releases of harms and filthy rude insults. For their jealousy & denial towards the sons & daughters of the Holy Assyrian Church of the East to form a group to protect their blessed Church and its blessing to launch a web site on the internet not aimed to harm anyone; but, to expose and introduce the abusers through their statements themselves and in their own recorded voices. Isn't it balance of the truth and the justice clear in this comparison? 4- Why this indecent attack to harm and false fabrications of different kinds, including unethical fabrications & lowliness against the web site www.shrara4u.com and the team that maintains it just because they gathered and released & spread your harms & false filthy fabrications directed against our beloved Church leaders? To further this attack, there is silence and refusal to take any measure or practical solution by the Pal-Talk dialogic rooms which their admin & owners and its attendees are continuing with their attacks, harms & abusive insults. However, there is a huge moral support for the Pal-talk room and its spokesmen whether through establishment of different activities in the dialog room or through attendance of leading representatives and members and supporters of Dictatorship Zowaa… So managers of the dialog rooms admit & confess repeatedly on a daily basis, the presence of leadership and cadres of Dictatorship Zowaa from Iraq, from Zayouna, Mosul, Dohuk and etc.!! Therefore, if you denounce & insult our web site www.shrara4u.com because we confided & recorded your cruel voice talks; then, how much is more appropriate and necessary that you refuse & denounce via tough phrases and straightens in tough measures towards the source & origin of these harms & insults which is toward Dictatorship Zowaa & Defrocked Zoro. Isn't it balance of the truth and the justice clear in this comparison? 5- When someone speaks, any person, in informational forum open and gives his speech and opinions and his observations and his interviews to the attendees, and desires huge numbers of attendees and in multiples to be present and seeks for his message to spread wide and the number of the listeners to enlarge; then, why the spokesmen become disturbed about our web site that is simplifying that task for them? Didn’t Younadam Youkhana “parking lot idiot” declare in his own tongue “voice” and informed & advertised to the attendees of War Decree # 1, the war against the Church (ACOE)? So why is “parking lot idiot” and his struggling compatriots & champions warriors “Croutons” annoyed from our web site that placed his war decree in the hands of so many people. Shouldn’t the idiot and his buddies thank our web site for doing this service for them? Didn’t Younadam Youkhana “parking lot idiot” say it and asked from the audience to inform our beloved Patriarch of the Church (ACOE) that he compares them with Halloween “Someka” characters or clowns. So why does he become disturbed from our web site www.shrara4u.com in complying with his wishes and his desires? Isn't it balance of the truth and the justice clear in this comparison? 6 – The operation of spreading of the filthy voice recording segments is not an easy task for one individual to do all of that; but, it requires an extensive preplanning & post planning. The release of the filthy voice recordings as testimonies, are the last steps in the process by the mob, and it does not start with the consolidated team of www.shrara4u.com, in contrary to what is being thought. So the process, first starts with the presence of persons that have been taught and trained completely by brainwashing them for this task of spreading harm, insults, hatred, abuse, foul language, fabricated lies, filth and accusations against our beloved Church (ACOE) and its leadership. This is not done by anonymous writings and false identities; but, in their own sounds, bodies, scum personalities, nasty looks, and their filthy blood openly via dialogue thru these publicly broadcasted Pal-Talk rooms, radio and TV stations for all to hear. Please envision with me, how much is their spite blind hatred and their moral falling whom accepts to practice and take these roles & tasks as a duty and complies with whom is charging them with such acts. Secondly, the process requires a need to open a dialogue room managed by admin whom are ready for this task to offer and share with this opportunity for these abusers to spread their harm & abuse and direct their filth. Furthermore and how miserable is, the Admin of these rooms participate in the process of cursing and slander. Thirdly, the process requires attendees and listeners that supports the spokesmen and they encourage directing their neglect & harms, and filth. The above points enables them and welcomes them with honor in these Pal-talk rooms by cadres and advocates of Dictatorship Zowaa and Defrocked Zoro whom gets full support and full appraisal by superior leading levels of Dictatorship Zowaa, as just one example of many, is Raad Ishaya (Eskhaq Eskhaq) and others in different names. Fourthly, the process needs a consolidated effort to record these voice testimonies. This is done by many and by room Admin and advocates of the room!!! For example they presented from their archives, previously recorded abusive voice testimonies of a deceased supporter “William Oraha Audisho – Sepa Tiaraya” during the day of his departure commemoration and call to prayer. What a lawless act and no respect for the memorial of the dead. Therefore, our web site team is not the only group that is recording the voice testimonies but the Pal-talk team is doing that as well. For sure, anyone that is doing the recording can use these recordings for personal archive use or as correspondence or testimonies of the definitive speakers towards any use and so on. The working team of www.shrara4u.com uses these recordings in an open disclosed manner (because these recordings are broadcasted openly to the public) to introduce and enlighten the public about the truth of Dictatorship Zowaa & Defrocked Zoro and their advocates and their ill manners, moral, and political behaviors. Our web site www.shrara4u.com is the last process in the series and is required. So why attack & assault the last step in the series of this process? !!! Isn't it more beneficial & worthy to stop the first step of the process before it is completed by putting a stop and complete resoluteness and criticize any person or priest or political party? Isn't it balance of the truth and the justice clear in this comparison? 7- As for the statement that the working teams of (www.shrara4u.com) are traitors and sold themselves to the Kurds and that they through the web site are giving away by informing about our nationals and presenting the great sons of the nation!!! (as that) to the Kurds, is a complete mockery statement and it make us feel very sorry for you. Firstly and before everything, the above transient statement confirms their clear political stands and confirms what has been included on our web site www.shrara4u.com that many of the spokesmen known with their purple color and their political stands and party lines and the national hostilities and the malice they circulate. Secondly, the transient interviews which are documented by the team of www.shrara4u.com were completely spoken with adequate openness in these open public Pal-talk rooms which at least 10 listening attendees are unknown names, nationality, religion, creed, gender, political affiliation, and geographical location. The spokesmen as they speak directly in these open public Pal-talk rooms of dialogue to their listeners perhaps their some are Kurds or Arabs or Armenians. There are Christians from different churches, Muslim, Yezedeen, and listeners from different political spectrums. There are listeners from different professions, students, teachers, laborers, police, politicians, and others from different cities and the states. Therefore, if the spokesmen view that their Pal-talk activities are being observed by any side, political or informational or investigative; then, these entities can possibly listen and record your dialogues directly without the need to any intermediary help from us. As we said, so many Admin of the Pal-talk dialogue rooms, the spokesmen, the listeners, and our team as well can record and document these dialogues. !! If the purpose of our team (as they are saying) was to record these dialogues and deliver them to the Kurds to inform, tell on, and harm the spokesmen; then, why would our team publish it on our web site www.shrara4u.com. !! Furthermore, why not give these recordings directly to the Kurds as informers secretly without allowing the spokesmen know or draw their attention? !!! To contrast that, they would continue with their Pal-talk dialogues and the continued insults while the “traitorous criminals, our team” to do our task without anyone paying attention to us. Then, our team would get the rewards from the Kurds for our treason” just as the Dictatorship Zowaa spokesmen claiming. !!! As for the spokesmen, if they had dialogues that they did not want others to hear whatever said and whoever said or who is present; then, they should lock their Pal-talk room to block any unwanted from attending unless they have a password given by the Admin to their desired buddies only to participate. !! Therefore, why accuse our web site www.shrara4u.com of your filthy dialogues, wrong doings, irresponsible behaviors, insults, and filthy attacks against our beloved Church leaders except Defrocked Zoro and against all political parties except Dictatorship Zowaa and against all other Assyrian & Kurdish political leaders? You declare and insist on insults; then, why do you want others to endure your insults or cover for it. Isn't it balance of the truth and the justice clear in this comparison? 8- I am astonished about some of the writers from the Chaldean church congregation. !! Instead of criticizing and demanding the immediate stop of this campaign of insults and filthy attacks that their friends and advocates of Dictatorship Zowaa and Defrocked Zoro are waging; NO, they are asking the sons & daughters of the Holy Assyrian Church of the East not to defend it and not to expose these filthy scrupulous abusers. !!! Actually as just one of so many examples; Thamir Tosa, who is well known as a member and affiliate of the Chaldean church and in favor in adoption and supporting his political line Dictatorship Zowaa (we acknowledge his right, especially as a proposed candidate of Dictatorship Zowaa as an appointee diplomat for the Iraqi government foreign affairs department. He is still dreaming of this appointment; even though, Dictatorship Zowaa apparently has not informed him that his nomination has been rejected.) He is always present, participating, and talkative in these Pal-talk dialogue rooms, and he is well aware of its propaganda, its Admin, its attendants are filthy abusers that constantly insult our beloved Church and its leadership and against all other different activities and political Assyrian & Kurdish leadership. However, he insists on attending and talking in these dirty Pal-talk rooms instead of asking to close it and orienting and advocating overtly the full accountability & judgment in all forums and media for the abusers by their referential party. He thinks that the sons & daughters of the Holy Assyrian Church of the East are overdoing it by exposing the real immoral culprit abusers and their political affiliation. !! It is obvious that generality of members of the Chaldean church are not feeling and living the pain of our big wound that so many Assyrian families of the sons & daughters of the Holy Assyrian Church of the East (some of the disagreements are evident within the same family and have reached at funeral). This wound and pain caused by Dictatorship Zowaa & Defrocked Zoro & his rebellion and their unholy alliance to form an assault campaign with indecent scrupulous supporters against our beloved Church and its leaders. It is correct that these writers; Thamir Tosa, Mikhail Seeby, Khoshaba Hozaya, Gewargis Mardo and others don’t feel our pain; however, what they claim to posses from cultural knowledge!! National feeling!!! Christian affiliation!! Should make them stop and immediately from supporting the campaign of insults and the abusers whether in direct stand (just as she the situation with Thamir & Hozaya) or indirect via the support and coverage and justification for Dictatorship Zowaa and rebellion of the Defrocked Zoro (by Seeby & Mardo). It is expected of them to issue very tough criticism against the campaign of insults by the filthy abusers and any sides which stand behind them. The shy phrases and on the spot in refusing the insults via tall and long articles to gain the rightfulness for the sons & daughters of our beloved Church to defend their Church in the face of the insults & abuse is a disgraceful situation for a pen calling for fairness!!! So where is their balance between what they declare and what they do? Isn't it balance of the truth and the justice clear in this comparison? Will, perhaps we will write more if it is needed. 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