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=> I think you missed Panch's point

I think you missed Panch's point
Posted by AssyrianMuslim (Guest) - Sunday, November 18 2007, 12:54:29 (CET)
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Mancho, you say that just because people changed languages that don't mean they stopped being whatever. Unfortunately, the people that you mentioned swithching language didn't switch from one language to another, but they speak newer dialects of the same language. That is not the same as Assyrians switching from Akkadian to Aramaic because the two were different languages. Not different dialects but they are different languages. So, that is the point, when you switch languages from one to another, it is only natural to eventually lose culture and tradition. As is obviously clear, today's Assyria is based on religion and the two are one and the same to most Assyrians. You say that there are other Iraqis who call themselves Assyrians and not only Christians, you are correct and I am not the one you should be saying this to but you should inform other Christians that Assyrian does not mean that one is Church of the East or Christian period. And please, don't try to turn the table in making it seem as if brother Pancho has made this up over night, I have seen this with my own eyes and if you haven't seen it, then either you don't know any Assyrians or you are just ignoring it, but it is very common among most of them to think that only they are truly Assyrian and in most cases their claims are based on being not only Christian, but of a certain denomination.

Secondly, this Jumbllat caracter keeps mentioning "malpana Gewargis" and people like that. Now one does not have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that the above person is abviously a Christian more than anything. But, why aren't there any people named Ashur, Sargon or any other Assyrian names? why are they all Christians and all their work is based on church rather than "Assyrianism". I mean now suddenle after the British naned the Nestorians as "Assyrians" suddeenly there are Assyrian nationalists, but we couldn't find one a 100 years ago or so, why is that? You claimed that the British did not revive this name, well then you need to go argue that with the Catholic encyclopedia, the Anglican church and the majority of scholars why hold this believe. In case you haven't noticed, it is not a popular opinion that today's Assyrians are descendants of the ancient Assyrians. It wasn't until the foreign archaeolgists, scholars, and historians began researching and making discoveries that suddenly the modern "Assyrians" began knowing "Assyrianism". I gurantee unless Assyrians would have gone to school in the future and studied archeology that they would have even know a fraction of what we know now.

So, it's not Pancho who imagines this and it is not from Pancho that I learned this from, but it is from experience. So, I don't what kind of Christian Assyrians you live with who are so open minded, logic and tolerant of other Iraqis claiming to be descendants of the ancient Assyrians.



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