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Re: Ahmedinajad
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Wednesday, December 29 2010, 15:24:02 (UTC)
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Rashad wrote:
>Never said anything about Jews unless we would make the word "Nazi" and "Germans" synonymous. There is a difference between Zionism and Jews. Not every Jew is a Zionist just like every German is not a Nazi. I hate Zionists but I don't hate Jews, in fact I love Jews more than Christians any time.

...I agree, except that Zionists have tried to make them the same thing...so that Jew MEANS Zionist, at least to them...and I understand their motives.

...that´s the unique position Jews hold in world history...a position not of their own choosing but forced on them by Christians...whenever I find myself succumbing to the natural feeling of condemnation of Israeli behavior , I have to remember to stop myself and remind myself of the position Jews have been placed in by Christians for centuries which has colored and in many ways dtermeined their defensive behavior...hell, who more has the right to BE defensive than Jews? Who gave birth to the NEED for Zionism if not Christians?

Who has caused Muslim "extremism", as a political, fighting force, into existence but Christians? If Jews allow themselves and are allowed by me, to bring to mind and use as a justification the awful way the Christian world has treated them, then I have to give Muslims the same lattitude...and in both cases it´s the fucking Christians who are at the core of these reactionary forces..it is Christians who´ve FORCED these two peoples to a defensive posture and then to an offensive attitude because indeed the best defense is a good offense...Jews learned that lesson the hard way...and so have Muslims.

The thing to keep reminding oneself is that Christians brought this about...it doesn´t excuse extreme behavior in self-defense...but it sure as hell explains it. People WILL fight back! They just will. America is fighting back for 9/11, and doing it against the wrong people too! But they allow themselves the right to fight back nonetheless....it is absurd of Hitchens and those who think like him to calmly point out Muslim "errors"...all we need to know about who is at fault is to look at the fact that Muslims will strap bombs to themselves if they have to...to say they do it because their religion makes them do it, and for no other reason, is exactly what Christians said about Jews: that it was their RELIGION which FORCED Christians to treat them the way they did for centuries.

Get mad at Jews, especially at Zionists? Yes. But remember how they´ve been treated and that they far, far would have preferred to never have been driven to such a point of desperation...get mad at Muslim extremists? yes...but remember what has been done to Muslims for the last 50 years at least and remember also that they would far, far rather not have been brought to this point....and also never forget that it has been Christians in BOTH cases who have pushed people to this extremity using the religion of Jews and Muslims as their EXCUSE and JUSTIFICATION.

Hitchens is like a very wise man, by his own lights, who is telling people that by all the laws of science and history and psychology and medicine which HE knows, they should NOT be bleeding....but they ARE...and who then gets angry at them for ignoring his sound analysis...but they continue to BLEED nonetheless....a wiser man will not condemn THEM but instead might think to revise or question his "expertise"...and maybe try to get a little wiser and more knowledgeable for the future.



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