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Re: AssyrianMazloom for Noble price...
Posted by AssyrianMuslim (Guest) - Friday, November 30 2007, 16:09:09 (CET)
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Muncho wrote:
>*** Really? And 40 year old Virgins too? WOW, I LIKE THAT...
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>"Why so old? but if you really do want that, yes that is possible and can have it, but we have to get there first and receive our judgement and get payed for our labors.
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>*** Why that old? I just LOVE middle age women :-)) They kick azzz... Also, you say it's possible and I could have them? okay... if you don't want yours when you get there, would you give them to me? (I'm kinda very energetic, you know!)...Don't give them to pacnho... All he's gonna do with them is tell them how he SMASHED his sculpture, and how Assyrians are not Assyrians, and muslims are all SAINTS...He is very boring, you know...So please, give them to me and save them from dying of boredom...

He never said "all" Muslims are "saints". He is not even Muslim so what reason would he have to defend Muslims if not just being fair? It is you folks who blame Islam and Muslims, yet don't like it when it's done to you people. Just look at your buddy Jumblat, where would I or Pancho be if we said a fraction of what he says?


>*** Well, the 40 year Virgins are a big deal for me...
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>"lol, how old are you if you don't mind me asking?"
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>***Me? 23 year old firing STUD ;-))
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>*** What goes around, comes around... That's called Nature...What does that have to do with God? Hasn't anyone put that image in your head?
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>"Don't get your point. "
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>*** Yet, you expect to understand the Qur'an?... Funny!

The Quran is straight forward and not around the bush like you. Be clear and make your point.

>*** OMG, that is so true... I never heard of a Muslim killing his wife and daughter for NOTHING. It was just an "honor" killing, I guess... And that is a BIG deal, isn't it?
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>"They don't blame the devil, and "honor" killing has no place in Islam but it is tribal or ethnic tradition. Islam does not permitt such thing and that is not justified,"
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>***You are just another ignorant person who blames Christianity if he sees a bad christian, but blames other things and not Islam when he sees a bad muslim... Your attitude is no different from the ignorant christians... Here is something from the QUR'AN for you... I hope you WILL get the POINT...
>[Men are overseers over women because Allah has given the one more strength than the other, and because men are required to spend their wealth for the maintenance of women. Honorable women are, therefore, devoutly obedient and guard in the husband’s absence what Allah requires them to guard their husband’s property and their own honor. As to those women from whom you fear disobedience, first admonish them, then refuse to share your bed with them, and then, if necessary, beat them.]

That's not true because it is you people who blame and like to slander Islam and Muslims. I am just returning the favor without slandering, insulting or telling lies against Christianity or attacking all Christians.

>*** BEAT THEM? With WHat? and HOW MUCH?

With what? nothing more than a tooth brush that is used in Arabia, and no more than a light tap on the arm as Prophet Muhammad(saaws) demonstrated. Believe me, you are not the first to mention this but this became the question immediately when the verse was revealed. that is why we have the Sunnah which further explains the brief verses of the Quran. Prophet Muhammad(saaws) further asked "how can one beat his wife the way one beats the wind out of a camel by day and then go in to her by night as a wife". So this does not mean that everytime the Lakers lose a basketball game he can beat his wife or abuse her. It is only a last resort when truly the wife is being totally disobedient and "disobedient doesen't mean for what a man desires but for what Islam says. Keep in mind that Islam also gives women the right to divorce. so this is not implied to abuse or beat women to death. There is more pertaining to this if you like.

>"but those Muslims don't know Islam very well either."
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>***And those bad christians "know" Christianity?... See what I mean when I say you're a genius? You have to believe me when I say it...

It is you people who blame Muslims. Keep also in mind that we don't say we have a "holy ghost" or the holy spirity residing inside us and then go to clubs, screw men or women, kill our wives for financial reasons and then go to the mosque on friday. A practicing Muslim goes to the mosque every day and I gurantee you a learned practing Muslim will not do th above. But I don't blame Christianity for it, but it is you who attack Muslims at every chance.

>"Those are the same people who don't allow their daughters to marry outside their ethnic group which goes against Islam. But the case with a pastor is totally differen't and remember that we don't claim to have God inside us(holy ghost)."
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>*** What is Holy Ghost? Do you know? You can ask pancho on this one...

It's in your religion, and you don't know the "holy ghost" maybe you haven't got it yet? I guess you are like me too and they will condemn you to hell along with me lol.

>"but you don't have to hide behind not being religious"
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>***What in the world makes you think I am religious?...You judge me just like you judge others... You are learning some stupid things from pancho... Not good for you... Besides, Can you tell me what "Religious" means? You can ask pansho to help you explain what that is too...(Watch yourselves skipping this one... OH, I forgot! pancho doesn't answer questions, because I dont...)

It all depends on your meaning of "religious" since it has a variety of meanings. I personally Don't like to use the word but i try to be as clearly as possible if I ever do. Since I am a genius, lol jk, but I prefer the Arabic word "deen" which correctly means "way" or I use "faith" and sometimes "beliefs". Religion can mean many different things and Islam is not correctly decribed as a "religion" after one knows it correctly.


>" I can not and will never say "yes" because I don't know what my status or what judgement I receive after this life."
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>*** So all you got from your belief so far is DOUBT about yourself... GENIUS!

No, I know there is a Jannah and all those pleasures just as there is a Jahnam and this world, but I don't say that I am going to it directly nor do I say "I am saved" because I have to be judged first and then I get what I earned.

> "First we gotta get our judgement first and then we know for sure."
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>***And when will you know? After you DIE?..........(((((((((((((((((( GENIUSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! ))))))))))))))))))))

No, first we die, then we are raised back to life for judgement and then we will know what we earned.

>"So there is no problem but it's the way the question is posed. If one asks, will there be "women in paradise " the answer will be yes and there will be much more than that."
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>*** I didn't ask about "women". I asked about 40 year old VIRGINS... will there be some, or not?

If that's your desire, yes there will be available but my brother you should rather focus on this life for now. If you try to compare everything in this life with there, you will confuse yourself. It is not like this life because it is different. It is a real physical place like here but not very comparable to it. So you should rather focus on this life and what you are doing now. I hope this helps, Insha Allah.



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