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Re: Bill Maher....Hitchens.....Dawkins....Harris......
Posted by Rashad (Guest) - Saturday, September 22 2012, 18:56:57 (UTC)
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The fact that he brings Salman Rushdie on his show says it all. What all these olks you mentioned have in common is they always bring the likes of Salman or Hirshi Ali on their shows. They act as if they don't know history at all. Christians aren't tolerant today, except for those who don't care, and they never were tolerant. Power had to be taken from the church before it stopped killing. Until almost 1900, Christians were still executing people in public. In 1899, a man in Mexico City was burned alive in public. Christians killed each other over Jesus, Bible, etc. When have Muslims killed one another in masses over something like this? These guys have made up their minds that Christianity is peaceful by teachings while Islam is not. I guess the popes didn't have armies and fought in wars with swords. They somehow see Islam as a religion of war and swords while Christianity is peaceful but its followers aren't always. The reason Maher isn't killed for speaking his mind about Christianity isn't because the religion is so peaceful and tolerant, it is because they lost power due to secularism and all those movements.

Women weren't liberated by the church or Christianity in the west but because of secular and atheist movements. Until recent centuries, Christians didn't believe women had souls and they were seen as evil and should be silent. I don't know how these "educated" and "free-thinkers" could have missed this, or maybe they didn't miss it, but they are rather prejudice against Muslims and Islam. They see Islam as the religon of "those" people while Christianity is western and "theirs". This is where that comes from and that's why Hitchens and the likes can easily ignore Christian crimes, which are far more, and focus on Islam. At least know your facts before you speak. They never cared to know Islam, but they just hate it. Same as whites never cared to know the Native Americans or those Africans they worked for free, but they just hated them. I have no doubt that all those you mentioned are a bunch of racists and bigoted.

Islam tolerated the different religions and people that lived in it's lands and the conquered people were better off under Muslims than under Christians. The different Christian sects weren't tolerated by one another but Muslims tolerated them all, even the ones that were far more controversial to the Catholic church. How can all that be forgotten and now suddenly Islam is dangerous, violent and intolerant. There used to be open debates between Christians and Muslims in Damascus, ancient Baghdad and other places in Islamic world. It was Muslims who engaged Christians peacefully to discuss their differences while Christians always wanted to make war. Islam doesn't hate Jesus nor Moses, in fact, you can't even be a Muslim without believing in those men as prophets of god and whatever message they brought was from the same god of Muhammad. This is an article of faith in Islam and there just is no way around it.

That was anothe thing I began to seriously hate about Islam because one can insult Muhammad but the Muslims would never insult Jesus because he is the same as Muhammad, and one becomes a heretic. Christians have never understood this about Islam. When the Muslim testifies is faith, he says "i bear witness there is only one god and Muhammad is his final messenger". That means Jesus and all those before him are included. Jesus is mentioned more in the Quran than Muhammad and Mary has a chapter named for her and mentioned by name and as the women above all women of all nations. Not even Muhammad's wife, Khadijah, nor his mother, Amina, got that honor nor are they ever mentioned in the Quran.

Racism is a seriosu problem.



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