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Re: Dawkins goes "Harris"
Posted by Rashad (Guest) - Wednesday, November 25 2015, 17:37:38 (UTC)
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Funny I was just watching Dawkins, Maher, Harris and Hitchens, along with some other people. I miss the old Maher of the past. I have no objections with anything these people say and they're great at dismantling religions. The one that really shocks me is Hitchens who is too smart for this but yet he pretends to believe Bush was sincere in attacking Iraq to help people and he brings Islam into it when critical of Iraqis that defend themselves during invasion of their country. Unbelievable and disgraceful. Another shocker was Harris on Fox news and Bill O'Reilly of all people actually defended Muslims and Islam. Harris claimed that we need to be honest and not afraid of using language to offend Muslims. Bill said there are over billion Muslims and he doesn't think they're all bad or violent and he didn't think Islam was the problem. Harris had to recover so he sneakily reworded it and said no all Muslims are terrorist but we don't know how many exactly support and agree with bin Laden and that's Islam calls for violence.

It is the end of the world when Bill O'Reilly defend Muslims. My take from watching all these men for the past seven hours on different shows but it's all the same argument. I don't know what Maher thinks and this one hurts me most because I liked him. The other three are definitely racist and sound no different from right wing Americans from Texas. It's sickening. But they're arguments are full of errors, easy to spot and this is why they appear on Fox news because it supports their views and there won't be a challenge. Sam Harris and all of them keep mentioning what "recent polls" tell us how Muslims feel about us and this is never questioned. Who participated in these polls and where were they taken? Pakistan, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan? Again, this means nothing and this is not proof. You say Islam calls for this and I say show me. Don't just say it but show me your proof. Go ahead and quote me Qur'an. Let's assume Islam is violent by nature, why aren't most Muslims fighting? Why weren't they killing all the Hindus when India was Islamic ruled for 900 years? Why did Khalid bin walid let the Byzantine go when he captured Syria from them? He should have killed them then and he was Muslim who followed Qur'an. What about in Tibet which at one point Muslims dominated for? How come they tolerated the Buddhist there? What about Spain and Muslims. Why is the only Muslim violence in countries at war? Why not Senegal, Niger, Chad, Malaysia or Muslims in Burma etc?

Is this the best they can come up with? How can these men who are brilliant at dismantling religions be so stupid and struggle this one thing. I stand by what I say and these men are racist and against immigrants, especially darker people and Muslims. They justify invading those countries but somehow Islam is at war with us, not other way around. Yes, again early Muslims fought and defended themselves against the Arabs after years of abuse but it was defending and not just kill for no reason. We have historians that tell us how Muslims behaved and there isn't anything to support Harris or his friends.

We're at war with them and not the other way around. You're taking recent organizations and fighters and ideology and using this as proof that Islam has always been like this and it's violent by nature. Why is this so shocking that Qur'an tells Muhammad and his early followers to fight back against their oppressors? Why do Christians fight if their religion doesn't even allow it supposedly? Why do atheists and pagans fight? Everyone in every race fights. Muslims are defending themselves in their own country. White men go to Asia and Latin America and Africa to steal, corrupt and get wealthy. White men destroy our planet and over consume world resources for a dollar. Who is really dangerous? I wish these men would stick to ridiculing religions and fight for social programs and against poverty. How can these men side with republicans if not a group of racists themselves. They have all changed in recent years and it's shock to me. Maher changed after he was fired and I believe he just playing along. The rest are head scratching to me. I can't believe they wanna convince us Muslims are bad for fighting back against us.



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