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Re: Fred Aprim goes to a museum
Posted by Rashad (Guest) - Tuesday, January 17 2012, 10:23:50 (UTC)
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They only embarrass themselves when they go crying to the white man, and what position does that white man have to do anything when he himself has robbed the world and is sitting on stolen lands? If these dweeps or assyrians as they like to call themselves care so much, why don't they leave Modesto, Arizona, australia,etc? These are all countries that were stolen and the natives of those lands were wiped out by the same christians who assyrians cry to. The problem is assyrians want to be white and believe they have to be respected simply because they christians and share same religion of the white man. America murdered a million Iraqi children with sanctions, and tens of thousands of those children were christians, therefore, why don't assyrians protest that? Is it because those children weren't killed by muslims. It seems like the only christian lives that are sacred are those killed by Muslims but never those by christians.

I agree with what you wrote but I should add or clarify my position on assyrians and persecution. My parents are assyrians from Iraq. I never lived there but been there for visit twice. I have read the "books" by the likes of Aprim and I have also read books that were actually published by respectable publishing companies and not those basement companies who will publish anything without checking sources. While I do agree that assyrians suffered at times, I do not believe they were persecuted in Iraq. Assyrians or nestorians as they were until about 150 years ago were persecuted by their own christians prior to the Islamic conquest of mesopotamia. Our boys like to preach that everything was fine in assyria until "mohammed arrived" but that's far from truth. Assyrians were persecuted by Byzantium and they were just itching to get their hands on them and get rid of those "heretics." It was islam which actually saved their asses but that's history.

I hold a different position and argue they were not persecuted by muslims because of religion and there are books written by christian historians that confirm this, but assyrians were attacked at times because they betrayed their countries in the middle east and sided with the foreign invaders. 1915 is a good example of this. You wanna lose your assyrian "citizenship"? Just tell them that a genocide didn't occur in that time and they will disown you. We been hearing it since childhood that the "moslem turks" murdered a million assyrians just because they were christians. Well, as an assyrian, I don't believe this and I have my reasons. Were there assyrians killed in 1915? Sure and so were armenians, turks, azeris, kurds etc. Assyrians(my great grandfather included) accepted money and weapons to fight for the Russians and others. Christians had lived in the ottoman empire for 700 years without a problem prior to that yet we are suddenly to believe turks just decided to get rid of them? I don't believe that and there is no historical evidence for a genocide. There were people murdered but that's on all sides and the majority of deaths on all sides were as result of diseases, famine and extremely cold winters. Unlike in germany where jews were hunted down wherever and their homes and synagogues were burned, churches throughout turkey stayed open and only those in the region where the fighting was taking place were killed and even then it wasn't all.

Anyways. Long story short, assyrians make fools of themselves when they cry to the world that they are persecuted. They should behave and stop cheering on foreign invaders and stop causing sedition. Iraq is for all Iraqis and christians included. Nobody had arrested assyrians for being christians nor for thinking they're assyrian. Hell all iraqis know ancient history and believe that the ancient akkadians, assyrians, summerians, babylonoians, etc are their ancestors so there is no problem there. But when the priests and those hiding in the west(like fred aprim) urge christians of iraq not be friends with iraqis, to demand independence and not accept any kind of help from Iraqi govt, then that's sedition and one will be punished anywhere for that, and regardless what someone thinks. If native indians talk like this and tell the white man to go back to europe, they will also be jailed or worse.

Assyrians have not suffered a fraction of what blacks, jews and natives have yet they go to the same white man who calls them "sand niggers" and make their silly "demands." Honestly, I find it embarrassing that they claim to be such brave warriors and then go begging like bitches and cry to sweden, australia and the us. They are suppose to be "true assyrians" and say the rest who don't think like them(as me) are not real, yet we beg them to come on here and we challenge them. We are not arabs, muslims, kurds etc but just like them but at some point no longer took what our village priests and aunties told us but we learned and evolved. They didn't so they get pissed. They are the "heroes" and "brave ones" yet they are running from us when it should be the other way around. We can't go on their forums because we are banned, and here nobody gets banned nor is there any deleting, registration and all other bullshit that is required by them. They ban themselves from here and say "we don't have time to waste" yet they spend plenty of time on their forums and telling us what "muslims have done to us" but they won't allow challenges or questions. Ask them for proof and they say "you're rude" or "you not real assyrians." It gets old after a while and they are lames.

Good points you made and I agree with you.



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