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Re: Honest Broker... i will be the bigger man
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Wednesday, January 14 2009, 6:56:41 (CET)
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>- The Christian religion spread with people who gave their lives no matter what

...who? What people? remember...your religious "history" isn't history at all...it is your propaganda. Give us concrete examples...we have given you numerous examples from Christian historians, not 'enemies" who tell of what Christians really did to spread the religion.

, but your beloved ISLAM and who spread it were killers and thugs and I don't have to give examples , you could find that from Mohammad up to his followers in the Islamic books itself!

...give EVIDENCE! I found, in a world-acclaimed history book written by a Christian no less, that Charlemagne, who was later made a saint, had 4000 Saxons beheaded in one day because they refused baptism...I want you to find an equally valid example of any Muslim ruler who did the same.....you are very good at saying, "everyone knows"...no, everyone, especially you, does NOT know.
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>- Christianity did many things which were wrong, but KEEP IN MIND that is not the REAL CHRISTIANITY , those who did those things used Christianity in a wrong way. While in ISLAM the situation is different , ISLAM is to kill anyone who opposes you which is stated in the first Qura'n sora up to the end.

...that is bullshit...and in the bible plenty of people get killed...and all your New Testament is is the story, in depth, of only ONE of the people your god had to brutally murder. Once again: you have NO concrete example to back up your claims...but always the same, 'everyone knows:...or, "I will not bother to show you..."

>-No Christian country in its law stated that CHRISTIANITY is the religion of the state, WHILE Islam did that ,

...The entire Middle Ages or, the Medieval world was ruled by Christianity and lasted well over 500 years...it was called the Dark Ages...popes and bishops and the Inquisition tortured, jailed and burned and murdered hundreds of thousands of people, Christians and non-Christians...kings had to be consecrated by popes and could be deposed by popes...what are you talking about?

that you can find an Islamic country that ignore ISLAM , but the first thing will say - that SUCH is an Islamic country.

...they do not ignore Islam...but tell us which Muslim country mounted a Crusade against Christianity...which Muslim country sends missionaries to convert Christians....name one where Islam is used to forcibly convert people...name ONE!

>- If Christian countries do whatever they do, are free because they are not doing that as a Christians ,

...really? Would Bush agree with you...would Reagan....would Obama? Are you going to tell them, and the American people, that their's NOT a Christian country?

but as a secular government while any ISLAMIC country whatever they do it is in the name of ISLAM , so your ISLAM then is responsible for their action , while if a Christian country did anything the CHRISTIANITY is not liable .

...you are still missing the point..which YOU raised. You said that Islam forcibly converts Chrisrtians and kills them JUST for their religion. Stick to your OWN point...tell us WHICH Muslim country, then or now, kills Christians JUST for being Christian..and which Muslim country forcibly converts Christians...go on...tell us!

..it was Christians who killed Jews JUST for being Jews and now arrests and tortures and murders Muslims JUST for being Muslim...when has Islam ever done such a thing?

>- You defend how peaceful ISLAM is, where the CUSTODIAN of ISLAM which is Saudi Arabia , just look to its flag and what you will see? I am positive you know that - WHICH IS A SWORD AND ABOVE THE WORDS OF ANY MUSLIM SAY IT WHEN HE PRAY TO GOD - no God , but GOD , and Muhammed the messenger of GOD " , HERE YOU WILL SEE THE CONTRADICTION That you praise GOD with a sword , could you tell me if your Islam is a peaceful , why they use sword, could you tell me that thousands of your MUSLIMS who are rejecting your Islam are killed not by the MUSLIM mobs, but by their own people , by their father or brother and now you tell me ISLAM is a peaceful religion, UNLESS YOU WEAR BLENDERS and you are.


...such a silly ass. No one has killed more Christians than Christians...if you knew any real history you'd know that...yes, in Islam as in Christianity, there are bad people who do not live up to the best ideals of their religion...but that is NOT the point. The point, which YOU raised, is that Muslims FORCIBLY convert people to Islam and kill people JUST for their religion...for two years we've been asking you for ONE example, a real example, for such claims...and you still haven't managed to find ONE...instead you try to mix the issue up with these silly posts of yours.

>- In the WEST countries , you say that many are becoming Muslims, then tell me who was killed because of that

...after 9/11 people who LOOKED like Muslims were killed...and many have been thrown off airplanes and their rights denied in many other ways...if, as you claim, Muslim countries are backward then we can expect such behavior...and, since they are not "nice" as you Christians are, it is to be expected...but then what excuse does Christian America have? And tell us of any Muslim country that starved over 700,000 CHILDREN to death? tell us.

, I am positive you don't find even one single one, but YOUR OWN MUSLIMS that you describe them peaceful people THAT KILLED THEIR DAUGHTERS because they refuse to abide your ISLAM which consider a woman as INCOMPLETE !

...you are again picking the worst examples...asI can find you thousands of examples of Christian murderers and rapists in the backwoods of Hillbilly country...how would you like THOSE people pointed out as typical Christians? Besides which....over 100 million people, the vast majority of them Christians were killed by OTHER Christians, and raped too, during just the thirty years it took between two World Wars. These were Christian nations who would argue with you if you told THEM that they were not Christians.

>And finally, you are happy with ISLAM good for you , but why you are hiding , why you don't see your people and preach your ISLAM ? because for sure they will laugh at you , because they know what is Islam more than you .

...you are foolish...but welcome.

>In conclusion, you don't need from me any evidence about ISLAMIC atrocity , the MUSLIMS themselves are proud of it the only thing is to go and read their history books and you will see , to a point the MESSENGER of GOD Muhammad participated himself in fighting and confiscating people wealth to be distributed among themselves! for GOD sake what kind of messenger is he?! unfortunately, you are living in ISLAMIC HALLUCINATION that will not lead you no where, IF THAT ISLAM WAS AS YOU STATED , as the Americans say it , LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT, unfortunately you SOLD YOUR ISLAM for your good life in AMERICA , and try to fill the VACUUM which you are familiar with with your EMPTY ISLAMIC RHETORIC!

...once again...;just the usual propaganda....and once again not a SINGLE example of islam forcibly converting anyone or killing anyone just for their religion...you consistently fail to back up your claims with anything except MORE claims!

...everyone expects to hear these hateful words from you..it is nothing new...but we can't help but also see that you have absolutely nothing concrete to back them up with...you're like the Christian who said, "but we KNOW what Jews are"...or, "we all KNOW what Blacks are like"...or anybody else you happen to hate. You give us more of your prejudice as "evidence"...it is, of a sort; it is the best evidence of what kind of person you are.

...and here's an important distinction for you between Islam and Christians...you, as a Christian, are welcome to say and write whatever you want here...we, whether Christian or nor, are not welcome on any of the Christian forums where you write. What does that tell you?



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