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Re: Pancho will like this!
Posted by Arrow (Guest) - Tuesday, November 1 2011, 20:59:37 (UTC)
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> ...which is worse: having a code of ethics which tells you to kill and which you obey...or one which tells you not to, but which you disobey?

= In the second case, the problem is the disobeyer. In the first, its the codes themselves.


> But I think you're mistaken...there was indeed a code which the Church used allowing it to kill your body if that would save your soul. Their rationale was that it was so awful to continue a life in sin thereby damning your soul to hell..better to be forgiven by the Church even at the cost of your physical life,

= “Thou shalt not kill”. There are no exceptions. In order circumvent it, one has to come up with a separate and contradictory code of ethics. There was a time when the church banned the bible specifically for this reason. It was illegal for anyone to hold possession of it. The church wanted to have its own way and the bible was an obstacle.


> ...all of which the Church indulged in. Remember that the Christian Church only reformed itself when forced to...

= Nonetheless, it is a religion that can be reformed to stay in pace with modernity. It is difficult to do so with other religions without directly coming to clash with its tenets on issues such as equal rights to women and freedom of speech.


> ...what spiritual dimension are you talking about?

= I have no idea! I just said it like that. But I will look into it get back to it later.


> Besides it isn't symbolic....people weep at the sight today....that execution is real in their minds....it's a horrible sight intended to foster guilt, nothing more holy than that.

= What then do you have to say about the Shia processions? They recount with gruesome details how Imam Hussein met his end. They pound their chests, whip themselves with chains and injure their foreheads, deliberately drawing blood.



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