The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum #5

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Re: Sorry for this late reply.
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Saturday, April 28 2012, 17:34:53 (UTC)
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Fareed wrote:
>pancho,
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>Again, I apologize for this late reply...

...better late than never
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>However, with regards to my original question to you, (what kind of proof would convince you that the Modern Assyrians are directly linked to the Ancient Assyrians?) Your main answers were the following, which I extracted from your

...what kind of proof do YOU posses? Why haven´t you produced any? You are the one making the fantastic claim, not I...the burden of proof is on you, not me....where is your proof?

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>......For an ethnic identity as old as the Assyrian..... And that would be if they had retained their original religion of Ashur and not changed to Jesus....
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>....I'm not sure what ethnicity even means any more..... Seems to me the safest thing to say is "I am Human".
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>....I said I don't know what defines ethnicity any more...
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>....nothing "defines" ethnicity any longer, except in a few cases, and even those will soon change as new "cultures" are made of blends. Ethnicity has just about become meaningless, in the modern era.
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>Of course, you gave full details of the reasons why you gave those answers. Never the less, they are all your answers to the one and same question I asked. So, as you can see, your answers above do not show, from your point of view, a clear and definite idea about what ethnicity is.

...Huh? Because I gave you more than one answer, I therefore gave you NO answer?

...my answer, which I admitted in every line, is that I did NOT know...and I doubt if anyone will know in the near future.
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>But, assuming you had a clear idea about the question, I expected an answer that is simple, precise, and as accurate as possible to today’s knowledge standard.

...then, assuming you have a clear idea about your own question, I expect an accurate, simple and precise answer from you...where is it?

..I´m not alone in saying that soon all ethnicities will merge into one...what ethnicity are Americans...how does that compare to Native Americans?

If you had asked me the question, this would have been the answer: “The proof that Modern Assyrians are directly linked to Ancient Assyrians is through Genetic Analysis. In other words, the lineage can be proven through Genes.”

...that is YOUR statement...your opinion....it is not shared by anyone who actually knows the subject...for one thing you have no ancient Assyrian genes to test your own theory...absent that all your vaunted genetic tests have shown is that people from around the world can trace the paths by which their ancestors left Africa, but ONLY for 500 years back...well, we already KNOW we came from that region, from Mesopotamia...certainly 500 years back...but what your genetic study will never reveal is that ONLY Christians of today are from Mesopoatamia...and also that only these Christians carry "assyrian genes"...there is NO marker for an ASSYRIAN gene...you can show that today´s Nestorians came from the MidEast, even the Assyrian heartland...but so did tons of other people.


...again, bring us the studies and sources who agree with your opinions.

...what you people do is say that whenever in history you see the word Aramaic, you say "THAT IS US, Assyrians"...and when you see SYRIAN you say "THAT IS ALSO us, ASSYRIAN"...and when you see NESTORIAN you say THAT IS US TOO, ASSYRIAN! And so to you any time the word Nestorian appears it is PROOF that those people were really ASSYRIANS...you do this with that plaque in China you brag of so...it doesn´t say ASSYRIAN on it anywhere...what it DOES say is NESTORIAN...and so you say "THAT IS US, THAT IS ASSYRIAN"!!! Please...give us a break!

...no genetic study on earth is going to find an assyrian gene...none.
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>Regardless, thanks for trying to answer the question.

...I answered it...there is no evidence for an assyrian ethnicity...none. And you have produced none, because there isn´t any. What you have is evidence for a Nestorian/Christian/Syrian/Aramean ethnicity...and all you´ve done is lump those together, shaved a little here and there, and called that ASSYRIAN! Just like the Church of the East was made into an ASSYRIAN chrch, by simply adding on another name...why not call yourselves the ASSYRIAN ROCKEFFELERS and claim that inheritance too?

There is less than no evidence for assyrian genes...none. Bring it here if there is...I´d love to be proven wrong and become a HERO again.



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