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Re: To Be Or Think You Be
Posted by Maggie (Guest) - Friday, February 23 2007, 5:45:24 (CET)
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With all due respect to you, and your thoughts, but I was not thinking of you and Dr. Joseph, when I wrote this post. Look who's being emotional?

I was referring to the Chaldo/Assyrian/Kurdish Christian context, in which our relatives in northern Iraq are put at this moment, further accentuating their departure from any national identity, the way the Kurds and the Arabs of Iraq enjoy.

I can see if all of Iraq was united, as Iraqis, with a legitimately elected and democratic government at the helm, and not some religious fundamentalists running the show from Baghdad on the one hand, and the Kurds trying to establish a Kurdistan on top of us by any means necessary, on the other hand, as our people narrowly try to escape the fight between the will of two different governments, both of which are Muslims, with Islamic courts. There’s no chance of their ethnic survival at this rate, much less their religious survival.

No one said that the Muslims of Iraq created this situation. We all know America created both of these illegitimate governments, one in Baghdad, the other in the north. I’m just saying that it is a no win situation for our people, unless they can guarantee their own ethnic and physical survival and safety, be strong and take matters into their own hands. We all know none of our political groups will ever save them, or any of our churches, because they are too busy selling religion. Baghdad won’t help them, the way the Arabs of the Central government are obligated to put up with Kurdistan. Kurds won’t help them either, because our people are living on the very land the Kurds want, so why should they help them? The only one that can do anything to help them is THEM, and they have no friends.

It isn’t the Muslim’s fault, but it isn’t the Assyrians of Iraq’s fault, either. They didn’t instigate the current sectarian fighting, and Christian bashing, we DID, here in the West, with our Western brand of Christian/Imperialism, living comfortably and in relative safety, telling the superpowers what to do with Iraq, if we couldn’t have it. Knowing all this doesn’t reverse the damage already inflicted on our people, and it certainly doesn’t prevent anything worse happening to them than what they are having to endure, right now, not knowing their ultimate political fate.

I think about these brave people, knowing they have decimated themselves religiously, but at the same time remembering that they are the most fragile and vulnerable group in Iraq, as they try to hold on to what little they have left, socially, culturally, linguistically, religiously, and economically, which no one has the right to take away from them, unless we have learned nothing from the past, and will continue to allow these injustices to take place without saying anything. So I am saying something.

That’s right Iraq is not the same, with everyone suffering, many lives shattered, many killed, the country raped, but my concern is that when all is done, Iraqi Arabs will still be called Arabs. The Iraqi Kurds will still be called Kurds. But the Assyrians of Iraq will be called Chaldo/Assyrians, (Catholic Assyrians) or Chaldo/Assyrian/Syrian, or Christian Kurds, and many other titles, and everything else but Assyrians, further dividing them, and decimating them, to the point where every Assyrian in the world will be dealing with a new set of problems in the future.

Now, whether or not you and Dr. Joseph think of them as Chaldeans and Nestorians, but NOT Assyrians, is irrelevant. They have many titles, to be sure, and many of them believe they are Jacobite, Catholic, Nestorian, but the majority of them have not dropped the Assyrian part of it, judging by the fact that they still refer to themselves as Suraye, Atouraye, Suryoyo, Syriani, Athurnaye, Ashuraye, etc. all of which means the same thing, in different dialects. Do you ever wonder why they DON'T ever drop these and just stick with Catholic, Jacobite, Nestorians? Because they THINK they are Assyrians, their parents think so, their grand parents think so, their children think so, their grandchildren thinks so, and THAT'S WHAT COUNTS! I THINK THEREFORE I AM. NO ONE has the right to tell them otherwise, NOT when Kurds can say they are Kurds, without anyone asking them for proof, when applying Dr. Joseph's formula and your measuring stick to the scenario. Hell, If they can create a Kurdistan by hook or by crook, so can we create an Assyria, if we so damn please! If the Iraqi constitution is "based on historical realities" which is how they justified a Kurdistan, then the Assyrians CAN prove they have lived there longer than any Kurd! But if we have to ask for "proof" of nationality from anyone around the world, such as the way you and Dr. Joseph want to impose, then NO ONE in the world can prove who they are.

Now you see how the burden of proof lays on Dr. Joseph. It is Dr. Joseph who has to PROVE to the world that we are NOT Assyrians. This is the credibility Dr. Joseph lacks. Until he has scientific and empirical EVEDINCE that we are NOT Assyrians, he is just speculating. Until then, we can claim anything we want, just the way any other nationality claims what they are!



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