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Posted by AssyrianMuslim (Guest) - Friday, November 16 2007, 7:02:59 (CET)
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JUMBLAT wrote:
>Stooge wrote :
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>" So, tell us where and when Christian Assyrians have been persecuted, martyred and genocides? You should jump at the chance to show "evil" Islam...while Christianity continues to murder Iraqis and Afghanis...tell us when and where. "
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>At outset, it seems to me this WEBSITE is not run by few stooges only, but really they are acting all as stooges .
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>In order, to reply to you STOOGE #0 , I will say as it was said by me always that in the Christian religion there are two type of CHRISTIANS, the first those who claim to be Christians and the second are those who take CHRISTIANITY seriously that in one hand , and on the other the situation in ISLAM is quiet deferent, in ISLAM , you are a GOOD MUSLIM,if you say the SHAHADA, if you pray five times a day , pay your ZAKAT, HAVE A FEAST, and VISIT MECCA/AL-HAJ.
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Those are the first five pillars of Islam and that is just the basics. There is much more than just those five.

>Now , there is no one single CHRISTIAN country lead by a PATRIARCH or POPE , while ISLAM should have the SHARI3A as the basic of the country legislature, furthermore that ISLAM is the official religious of the country's constitution , while Christian countries is headed by SECULAR PEOPLE ,if these people did any thing they are the one to blame and not their RELIGION AFFILIATIONS which has nothing to do with government policy.
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The pope has a lot of power even if there is not a single one official "Christian country". The Christians still have a lot of power in those nations and they are still motivaded by their religion either way. You ignore this fact about the Islamic world, yet use it in your case. You are wrong in some cases and I will tell you why. Islamic nations must be ruled by a sharia based government in order to be truly Islamic, and not one single so called Muslim nation does that currently. Following certain parts and ignoring the rest is just as haraam as not living by it at all. So, you are wrong on that. The same applies in the Islamic world and they are headed by secular people which are actually financed and agents of certain western top guys. Those are not Muslim governments at all. In the case for Christian nations they try to play secular, but they still are influenced by the church and their religion. Christianity is different from Islam. Christianity does not offer full guidance in all fields so they have no choice but to be secular. When Europe was ruled by the popes and the churches, we know what was happening there. There be persecution, no inheritance for women, no tolerance for even other Christians, and imagine other faiths. There be corruption by the church with scamming money from its people etc. Such things are all avoided under Islam because we have full guidance in all aspects. When there were real Islamic lands in the past, western writers are still praising them to this day and that is undeniable. So Christians have no choice but to be secular because their religion based on the "New Testament" offers no full complete way of life. The only choice they have is to rule by their "church doctrine" as they did in Europe in the past, and that was a disaster.
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In ISLAM , any wrong policy like discrimination, intimidations , usurpation and occupation and slaughtering the people NOT the government is only responsible which it is , BUT ISLAM AS A WHOLE IS RESPONSIBLE too.

Islam can never be blamed for what happens, but certain Muslims can be blamed and are responsible. Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) warned the Islamic umma of what will result if they abandon the rule of Allah(swt). There be "poverty" "corruption" and "oppression". That is exactly what has happened to the Islamic world due to these tyrants which are put in power by some corrupt individuals. So Islam can never be blamed because Islam is a perfect and complete system, way of life and faith. I challenge you just as the Quran challenges everyone, to "roam the world, seek knowledge and compare" it is a 100% gurantee there is no better system than the Islamic one. Believe it or not, so far with every system I have compared it with, they all fail miserably.
>The ASSYRIANS and as CHRISTIANS were persecuted a lot in the course of history of ISLAM , but the recent one is about 71 years ago ( 1933 ) when the IRAQI government massacred our people .
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>In conclusion, the one OCCUPIED IRAQ or AFGHANISTAN are not the CHRISTIANS , but the AMERICAN government which went as a secular government after these TERRORIST ISLAMIC elements, and do you think I agree , my answer will be NO and YES, no to humiliate and devastate our beloved country of IRAQ in one hand and YES to go after these terrorists to stop them from turning our world to unsafe place to live that we spend over 3 hour time with a lot of headaches to travel by a plane.

You say they are not Christian but American, yet they are too Christians, they go to church, they pay their 10% and they sing and clap on Sundays. It all depends on what a Christian is to you and which kind you are refferring to. The average American "born again" Christian is anyone who accepts Jesus Christ(pbuh) as his lord and God, and has faith in his death on the cross along with his ressurrection. As long as you believe the above in the heart, you are a Christian. Now among Catholics it's almost the same except that they have more pagan practices than the other and as long as you are baptized you are good to go. Either way, Christianity does not offer much as far as "way of life" or complete guidance in life. Why do you think they have to follow their own opinion, their individual church "doctrine" and their own desires.

If you honestly think that America is in Iraq fighting "terrorists", I must say that you are very naive and more naive than the 70% of Americans who know what is going on there. This is not about no "terrorists" but it's about "new world order", oil, and other benefits. Not "terrorism". As far as the delay in airports and all the new laws which are taking away the "freedom" od the American people, that is all part of the plan, and what better excuse than "terrorism" and "9/11". Come on bro, you can't be that naive man. In Afghanistan is the same thing too. The Taliban is the product of the CIA when they use to fight the Soviets. It was the CIA which empowerd them and now act as if they overthrew them. It is just a political game.

>NOTE: in the case of AFGHANISTAN , I think the AMERICANS DID A NOBEL JOB, by erasing that TALIBAN government which turned the people of AFGHANISTAN to over 500 years back , these are the savage people who blew up the BODHA'S ARTIFACTS which were standing there over a thousand year and we don't know how many MESOPOTAMIAN artifacts ruined so far which are very old and important .

They brought the Taliban in first place so why get rewarded for a crime they committed? as for the statue of Buddha, they blew those up out of anger to piss of the United Nations which spend money on statues but not on staving people. People die all the time because of the same 'U.N and the U.S and they care about statues? oh please give it a break.



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