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Re: UK riots: dictatorships around the world use unrest to their advantage
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Friday, August 12 2011, 5:36:50 (UTC)
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...this question of honoring American soldiers or seeing them as any kind of heroes is a tough one. I feel sorry for them...for young men and women with so little going for them they go play soldier and who found themselves in the sorry condition they are...and we have to see them as brave heroes.

..no doubt Germans saw their own soldiers the same way in WW II....and WW I, when some nine million soldiers were killed and 12 million civilians....this is bravery...courage...heroism? Mass slaughter for profit, disguised as patriotism is heroism?

...besides which it's hardly a fair fight...who thinks to call a man a hero who does battle with a 12 year old? In terms of weaponry, training and support our soldiers may as well be fighting children, but dedicated children who've shown their mettle in other wars...but children all the same who never went looking for trouble until it came to them, and they did feats beyond their years...

...I'd feel a lot better about US soldiers if they were actually facing an equal foe and doing so in the name of defending this country...I mean the real thing, not this fairy tale nonsense cooked up by warmongers and those who profit from wars.

...they are not to be blamed..if they had any real gumption they never would have enlisted in the first place...any sense or sense of decency and they'd have known that America has an empire as mean and vicious, though marketed much better, as any in history, when you correct for time and place. So I do feel sorry for them but I'm sorry, I see no heroics in any of these wars. They are doing their duty and doing it well....but then so were the Germans...so were the Huns....so were the British...they all "did their duty" and at times it was hard and dangerous and taxing beyond imagination...but all in an illegal and immoral cause...so where's the heroism?

..to be a hero means more than standing up to a bayonet charge...it means standing up for right...for justice. There have been great and courageous villains throughout history and literature, but no one called them heroes, no matter the risks they ran or how well they stood up to the task.

..if it's all the same I'll keep the better definition of "hero"...and there are very few of those in any military in the world today...Bradley Manning comes closest and he didn't shoot anyone and, finally, he didn't want anyone shot...that's heroism for real.



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