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“It's funny first of all that when you quote a translation of the Quran you don't realy give the chapter number with the verse. Maybe you just forgot but it's kind of hard to just figure out in which chapter you are reading from when all you provide is the verse number.” You’re the “expert” on the Qur’an. You should know where everything is written. “Next time just give the Surah and Ayah together so it will be more helpful. As for swords is the Quran, the word "saif" means sword in Arabic and it is nowhere in the Quran. There are 16 different words for "sword" in Arabic and not one is found in the Quran. The word is only found in translations and translations are not the Quran.” Those translations are from your BEST “scholars” in your BEST Mosque. But Ok, let’s not argue whether the word “sword” is mistranslated or not. You agree that there is the mention, in the Qur’an, of war and the advice for people to fight and kill those who fight them, right? Now tell me how those people fought to protect themselves? Did they use the machine guns, back then? “Bani Israel are the children of Israel. If you want to give it another meaning then you can do so but you are wrong in that regard.” Of course I would be wrong... Only YOU and the idiot pancho can ever be right... But here is a suggestion for you, Genius... Why don’t you trace the origin of the word “Israel” and see what it means? Fair enough? “You can give it some mysterious meaning if you want but you be going against the Quran in that case.” I will be going against YOU and your likes, NOT the Qur’an... You sound like You just can never be wrong, like pancho... How nice... But then again, I’m not surprised, after all, you are the LITERAL guy... “There was nothing hidden about Jesus recorded as saying that he came to bring a "sword" rather than peace.” That is called SYMBOLISM... Study it and learn how it is always used... Will help you learn the truth in the Qur’an, as well. Not the BS truth of some idiots like pancho, or a stupid Shekh in Jame3 Al-Azhar.. “This verse is making the Christians wake up and realize that Jesus being born without a father does not make him "God" or the "Son of God" because God also created Adam with no father or mother and Eve without mother either. This is a comparison that God is not the same as his creation and that He creates what he wills. The miracilous birth of Jesus was a sign to mankind and an example for the "Children of Israel". “If you want another interpretation, that is your choice but that is not correct.” No, I don’t... I already know that only you and pancho can be right... BTW. Do you get Emails from God telling you what the “right” interpretation is? You must be “special”. “When God decides to create something, He only has to merely say it and it's done deal.” So why didn’t God create the other Prophets the same way He created Jesus? Can you answer this? Jesus has many different nick names in the Quran such as "kalimAllah" "word from God" "AbdAllah" "Servant of God" "RasulAllah" "dprophet of God" just like Abraham is has certain names or titles. Either way the meaning is that Jesus was not God as the Christians claim but he was an upholder of monotheism and a piuos servant of God. >Allah? His Word? His Spirit?... Trinity? “I don't know what your point is but it is clear that Jesus is a "word from God" "kun" and that the "trinity" is false and not from Jesus or God.” I know you don’t understand Symbology, but can you atleast COUNT? To see where the idea of trinity comes from in the Christian religion? Because “Trinity” is in ALL religions, whether directly expressed or not.... Can you count? Okay, here..... God------ His Word----- His Spirit. >Besides, Desn't the Qur'an state that Jesus was taken up to God? “Yes it does and he was raised up by God but I don't know what your point is or what that has to do with "swords".” How many other “prophets" were raised, and why not ALL of them? Why not the Prophet Muhammad too?... “That wasn't my intention neither because the topic was "prince of peace" but there are verses which do not say that but rather talk about him not coming to bring "peace on earth" but to bring a "sword". Symbolism, Assyrianmuslim. Symbolism.... Study it, if you want to know the truth in the Qur’an or any other book... Stop chasing BS like everyone else... You think you know the Qur’an or the Bible? You Don’t, Assyrianmuslim. Not yet... When you find the truth in ONE book, you will see it in all the other books, because they all talk about the same thing, BUT, in different ways... Same concepts, different expressions... Get the idea? I know it is too late for stupid pancho, but maybe it isn’t late for you... Stop chasing BS, please. --------------------- |
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