The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum #5

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Re: confusing
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Friday, February 10 2012, 23:53:55 (UTC)
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Ashur wrote:
>Im not really sure why you put that...the number of people who are watching. I really dont think anyone actually cares butI sure hope they are

...I think it matters...I mean if no one was reading I'd still be writing because many of these posts get out there onto the web and travel around....we didn;t always have many, mostly around 250 to 350 a day which is still more than nay of the other sites get...actually they all read over here, though they all deny it.


...I also thankyou for not erasing my posts but if you would actually reveal yourself as I have then maybe we can get somewhere...

...we never delete or ban anyone...we have what's known as a self-banning system...people quickly figure out they don't belong here and take themselves away.

...I still don;t understand why it matters what I look like...or what you look like or who you are....none of us care. We are interested in words and ideas, not personalities and certainly not ethnic or national derivation....what more can I tell you, I am Fred Parhad, born in Baghdad who heard all the same comforting fables and nonsense you heard and Dr Joseph heard about being Assyrians and all of that....I like truth, I don;t like pretty-sounding lies.


notice that you claim youre not Kurd but also never said what you are...why is that?

...I told you my name, I told you I was born into a family that claims to be Assyrian...my father was a doctor my grandfather also a doctor who fought with Agha Poutrous...I am the sculptor of the Ashurbanipal Monument in San Francisco, you can google it, as you can my name....images of me will pop up...I also just completed a portrait in bronze of Agha Pourous for a private collection, owned by an Assyrian...but what does this have to do with what I SAY?


Just to also touch on the Ashurian/Christian theory...we know what religion we were before we converted. Living side by side with Yezidis who still follow the Ancient Religion should confirm it. Yes we were Ashurian Pagans prior to being Christians and i would guess that through religion history has also been preserved...just because you are an Atheist- ex Christian/Muslim??? Does not make this bogus...

...I'm not the ex-Muslim, Rashad is. I was never a Christian, the whole thing is and was ridiculous to me...I never became Muslim or anything else...I am happily and proudly an unbeliever in ANY gods, as I raised my five children to think for themselves and happily none of them bought into any of this nonsense either.

most of the masses then and now still believe and through that power history has been preserved...look at how much history/books the Vatican has?? You cant tellme that youre correct.

..the Vatican can keep its history...it's nothing but a pack of self=serving lies...we know, from recent and real history how the really converted people, by the sword, by death, by killing and slavery...do you think they write about how they "converted" the people of Latin America..teh Mayans, Aztecs, Incas etc? Or how Africans were "brought to jesus"....of course not.


Youre also basing youre word on authors and not those who actually have the tablets, scrolls and artifacts.

...true historians have rewad all those scrolls...a lot more than you've ever seen.....tablets and scrolls are also self-serving, made up centuries after the actual events and all to fool people with.


I said it before...this is a CONSPIRACY against Assyrians by Kurds.


...that is your OPINION...which is fine...but back it up with something more than more opinion...give a reasoned argument why the Qurds should care or be afraid of assyrians....why would ANYONE be afraid of us? We ran from Iraq when the Qurds, who have been fighting for their own country, I mean FIGHTING, for centuries, all stayed and are still fighting...we all ran out and now, when we see the Qurds gaining we cry that they are not playing FAIR!

...we have always been our own worst enemies ever since we left Ashur for Jesus, and then left the COE for all those other Euro churches because each brought moire goodies for us...we lack backbone.

..the bad ones. We stood up against youre government while you backed them...and now a billion dollars later you stand up against them??

...you really have to get over this "you are a Qurd" business...as I told you it doesn't matter anyway...you keep sidestepping the issues raised to mouth off about how I MUST be a Qurd...for the love of all that's reasonable what DIFFERENCE would it make anyway? Let's say a AM a Qurd..if this the BEST argument against me you can make?

.."you" haven't stood up to anyone...you've run out of Iraq and are demanding that THEY, the Christians left in Iraq, Stand UP!!! They know better...they know they have no power and never will....they wnat to live in peace with the Qurds and Arabs and anyone else surrounding them...and YOU hate this. You want THEM to fight for YOU, after YOU ran away...leave them alone and let them get on with life...they have families and rfeal concerns, not this assyrian nonsense...none of you mind becoming "Americanized", so what's so terrible about being "Arabized"?


You claim Assyrians are at fault for working with the white man yet Kurds or even if you want Aramea it will be through the white man!!

..I don;t Aramea...this is all nonsense...wake up. France used to be Gaul, it no longer is! get over it....get on with life...get an education, a real one...explore your horizons and if you want to honor the ancient Assyrians, do it...but no one is going to give you an Assyria...and you're not going to fight for one....you know that better than I do.

If you are Arab then go bitch at the Saudi's...not only for conquering you but for also collecting money from the Zionist or the so called white man that you hate! Whatever you are you cant pin this on us...no way.

...we assyrians are responsible for siding with the Euro Christians against our own neighbors...we have done it repeatedly starting with when Peter the Great's armies moved into Persia and we took guns and helped kill Muslim women and children....we done this repeatedly....in time of war, this is called TREASON...and we have betrayed our homelands time and again....we still haven't learned our lesson...no sooner did we realize that the British "betrayed us" then we trusted the Americans AND the British to "ave us" this time...we all thought this war against BetNahrain was a great opportunism, that we would benefit, that surely NOW the Euro Christians would do something for us...and, I have no doubt, if in 50 years some other Euro Christian nation decides to attack Iraq we will AGAIN rush to their side and say, "THIS time they will REALLY save us"....right, they, and Jesus, have done a GREAT job of saving us...try taking some responsibility for where you find yourself.


Assyrians have done nothng wrong...

...of course they have...they have taken money, uniforms and weapons and worked for the British as Levies, turning British guns against the very Iraqis who take them in when they were RUNNING for their lives...these MUSLIMS didn;t have to do that...but they did...and we thanked them by working for the British occupying forces...we have done this over and over and it's the main reason we are disliked...not for what we are but for what we have DONE.

once again...tell me what you are and show me this proof linked.

...I'm not responding to this any more.

Also explain if I and the other 2 million are all Arameans then why cant i understand them...we lived very close with them?

...it's called DIALECTS...I understand American English and British English but I don;t know WHAT the Irish or Scots are saying.

All Assyrians speak the same just different slang. I can understand all of them...no matter where they are from. Youre Arabinized and the world who is watching knows that...and even Atheist would agree that being Christian is safer then being Muslim...our Christians never hurt or killed anyone...full of shit buddy! India and many other Orthdox Christians knows this...it was Rome!!!


...you betrayed....and you killed lots of innocent Muslims...it's just that your church won't teach you that...as long as you remain shut up in your church you remain ignorant and make a fool of yourself....read something else besides the bible.

...you aren't stupid....you are ignorant. It's ok to be ignorant...there are lots and lots of things of which I am ignorant...but to STAY ignorant is stupid.



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