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Re: here is an anti-Islamic historian
Posted by AssyrianMuslim (Guest) - Tuesday, January 6 2009, 23:34:37 (CET)
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In other words, these fanatics would be willing to die at the hands of other Christians rather than live in a land with Muslims, can you imagine that? They brag about how unwilling they are to renounce their religion, as if Muslims need them to, but they later argue that the majority of Nestorians, Jacobites and other Christians who embraced Islam did so to avoid paying the Jizya. Even if this lie was true and I will agree for the sake of arguement, this tells me that they did not care about their faith much or else they wouldn't have sold it for money. However, even that is a lie because the Jizya was always affordable but what these fantaics are confused with is that at times, which I have already mentioned on here, there were certain caliphs who were out for their own personal gain and they didn't want the minorities to embrace Islam because they didn't want to lose Jizya. This had nothing to do with high taxes but it was the fact that such a caliph was out for his own interest, and they are only human after all, but if this is the worse that these morons can come up with, they are in a world of trouble.

In fact, they should be thanking such caliphs because other wise they would be even less than today had it not been for the caliphs not willing to invite them to Islam. I have pointed out before that certain caliphs had times placed certain restrictions on the non-Muslim minorities, but even that was nothing in comparison to what Christians did to their own people. Such caliphs, who had become greedy and strayed from Islam, were a rarity and this is the worse that a nationalist can think of. They'll ignore 2 world wars, genocides, holocausts, atomic bombs, crusades, mass murder of millions of Natives, European Pagans and Aboriginal Australians, but will see it as bad because a certain caliph over 1,000 years ago was not very "nice". This is supposed to be humor I am assuming and I will laugh it for that reason.

Again, these people hate books, they hate historians and even education or open forums. They call historians and scholars stupid because they tell the truth but they can't even prove them wrong. What reason would a Christian or western historian have to go out of his way, tell the truth about his own history and face criticism from bigots of their community if not for honesty? These morons do not understand what a "historian" is and they expect them to lie and write as they wish. There are such low type of historians out there but and especially in the past, but they have now been criticized by their own because of dishonesty, prejudice and other issues. A historian has the authority to write about history, he/she has to be free of prejudice and they spent years studying, gathering information, sources and double checking. They even have others, more experienced than themselves re examine their works and help them make corrections. Could a Fred Aprim or an Jumblat really do this? They are not even historians in first place but even if they could handle getting a degree in that field, could they be willing to take such approach?

I certainly don't think so and that is why they chose to be engineers, real estate agents, taxi cap drivers, chefs, restaurant owners and other careers. They were too lazy to become historians and do not have the qualities or patience to do so but they are always willing to write "books" and get then "published". They are unwilling to become historians but they have no problem posing as such and pretending to be activists. They are a good laughter and one can see what they are made of withing a short conversation and by just reading their bogus posts. They always manage to undress them selves and all one has to do after that is do the finishing touches. They'll rather be killed by Christians and get screwed over than to live in a land with Arabs, Kurds, Turks or any other Muslims. Hell they even hate their own mothers and even their own kind and only has to look at how screwed they are by their bishops, and hostile denominations. Whatever name their denominational leader identifies with, that is the name the rest of the followers will use as well.

There is nothing Assyrian about them and Jumbo partially said it correctly when he stated they gave uo their Assyrian side over Christianity, but he lied about the part about them chosing it on their own. It was after 325 that they had become Christian and it was not by choice but by compulsion because it became the only acceptable religion of the empire. It is true that maybe a few priests and bishops may have chosen it on their own because of certain benefits but the rest is not true and there is today no record of any "Assyrians" converting to Christianity because by that time identity of the ancients was long gone anf forgotten.



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