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=> Re: just as a refresher...

Re: just as a refresher...
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Wednesday, February 29 2012, 18:17:27 (UTC)
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Arrow wrote:
> that sounds a lot like your introductory post here that "all religions are pretty much alike"
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>I never said "all religions are alike".

...do I really have to go dig it up? Okay, then say it again...how do you rate or compare the three major ones?
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> I seem to remmeber you left right at the time we were posting evidence showing just how different and UNLIKE the others Christianity is
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>There was a disagreement over the topic. I said "any religion is better than atheism". You responded by citing atrocities perpetrated by Christians. When I asked about Islam, you changed the subject... anyway, well get back to this.

...I never change subjects...I may tack to one side for a moment, but that's only to illuminate the main point better...ask me about Islam now and I will tell you that at its core it is not a religion of bloodlust, of human sacrifice and of vicarious redemption..you are not commanded to wash in the blood of Muhammad the way you must glory in Christ's gore....there are no cadavers hanging in mosques and no bleeding hearts and no instruments of torture hanging around children's necks....and, finally, two world wars were brought to us all by Christians and not Muslims...and tell me what wars Muslims have started in the last 200 years, as compared to ones started by Christians...and how far from their own borders they traveled to attack innocent people who hadn't done a thing to them, compared to Muslims...for now.
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> if you left unconvinced we could always start over
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>I suggest we start over with the root cause of religion: God.
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> we pointed out that no modern religion, except Christianity, extolls human sacrifice
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>Christianity does not "extol" human sacrifice. Many soldiers died to liberate their country. They are extolled for their courage and patriotism, not for dying per se..

..of course it extolls human sacrifice...in fact, if you REJECT the notion that Christ was killed for you, you can't even BE a Christian..be you as kind and as good and as soldierly as you want...if you reject human sacrifice, and , let's be even more plain, if you refuse to eat the flesh of this Jesus and drink his blood, then you cannot be a Christian...and yes, it is REAL flesh and REAL blood they are talking about
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> no other religion has life-size models of bleeding cadavers hanging over its places of worship, where children kneel
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>The Shias have gruesome rituals.

...Christians also mortify the flesh, that is not exclusive to either of them...but what is only found in Christianity is life-size models of bleeding cadavers......no?
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> no other religion has little gold instruments of torture and execution dangling from the necks of their darling babies
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>I have never thought of it as an instrument of torture. I do not think any Christian does. It's how you look at it... from which perspective. This is not an essential issue in the Christian doctrine by the way.

...of course it is...the cross appears EVERYWHERE...absolutely everywhere....and what would you call the rifles used in a firing squad...how about a hangman's noose...are these not instruments of death AND torture, or don;t you think people suffer before being shot, or hanged...what if Jesus had been electrocuted...do you not think a miniature gold electric chair a bit gruesome to hang around a child's neck? Come on...be honest.

...what "perspective" would you look at it with, if he had been shot? Would guns be okay then around children's necks. Would it be okay then to kneel at the foot of a rifle and "pray"? Why on earth do they then hang these crosses around their necks...to remind them of what? Wood?



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