The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum #5

=> final word on that famous inscription....

final word on that famous inscription....
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Sunday, July 21 2013, 2:46:43 (UTC)
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What has this discovery actually shown? Not what Taco thinks it shows, but what it actually signifies....what have we learned from the bilingual inscription from 800 BC?

We learned that at that time (800 BC) there was a Luwian people occupying southeastern Anatolia (Turkey)who paid homage to the Assyrian king. In their language the initial "A" was dropped making Assyrian into 'Syrian'. We also have that same inscription written in the Phoenician language but written as 'Assyrian', with that "A" intact and in place. We also know, from all other sources, that the Assyrians never called themselves 'Syrians'....they knew that was just a peculiarity of the Luwians...much as the French and Germans each have their own word for 'American'. All we've learned from this fragment and its two languages is that one group spelled 'Assyrian' differently than the Assyrians and Phoenicians did.

Now how, you may well ask, does that explain why modern assyrians believe that when THEY have said "we are Syrian/Suraye" (for the last 1000 years) they really meant all along they are Assyrians as well; that both words mean 'Assyrian'?

Yes, it's true, 'Syrian' DOES stand in for Assyrian...but ONLY to the Luwians and to no one else, 2800 years ago. How do modern assyrians explain how or why this ancient peculiarity in spelling became their own word for themselves? When did that happen? Did it happen before the end of empire...did it happen 100 years after.....500 years after....2000 years after? When, and why, would the Assyrians have substituted the Luwian spelling of their name for their own? When? And why?

We don't know that answer, but we do know when they tried to go BACK to "Assyrian"; in the modern era around the mid 19th century....and, as far as their church is concerned, in 1976 AD when they added "Assyrian" to their name, for the first time.

They don't know when it happened, or why, or how. It must have been in the distant past because there is no record of anyone calling hisself Assyrian in all that time...not, oddly enough, until the time we say they invented this new name for themselves...not until after the discoveries of Layard and the rest...and no one denies this. They can't because we ALL know that our parents and grandparents called themselves Suraye and NOT Aturaye...never happened...you won't find it in any record anywhere....that is a fact they can't deny.

And, interestingly enough, they don't deny it. What they do instead is say that when they said 'Suraye' all those centuries past, they really meant ATURAYE! They believe that this inscription somehow validates this lunacy. And here's where the bullshit begins; they say we ALWAYS meant Assyrian when we were saying Syrian/Suraye all those hundreds of years. But, there is no evidence of that...no one even said, or wrote, "by the way, when I say 'Syrian' I also mean Assyrian." Never, not once...they only started saying Syrian-meant-also-Assyrian when they INVENTED their assyrian heritage in the 19th century, until then they called themselves by a LUWIAN name! Go figure.

If they were as proud of their ancient Assyrian heritage, as they say they were all along, how come they didn't USE the proud name of that heritage? How come they chose instead to use the misspelling supplied by a small people they conquered 2800 years ago? Why the sudden switch now? Why be known all those centuries by a SPELLING ERROR....or by the word for them used by OTHER people?

Of course no assyrian will ever take on this argument...instead they will call you a "hater" a "destroyer" and tell you they don;t need dictionaries any more than they need a bath, or soap. Which explains exactly where they are and their steady decline....a decline made all the more rapid by their weird notion of "loving the homeland" wherein they have sided with every foreign Christian attacking their homeland and its people, including its Christian people....maybe they should have read a little more than Wikipedia all those centuries.



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