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Posted by pancho (Guest) - Monday, October 15 2007, 23:16:03 (CEST)
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Re: Assyrian Aid Society of America

Posted By: Maggie Yonan
Date: Monday, 15 October 2007, at 4:28 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Assyrian Aid Society of America (David William Lazar)

David-"You are making some serious allegations, please back these up with proof, documented proof not just here say. This should not be too difficult to obtain if corruption is so widespread in the organization as you're claiming. So please let's get used to discussing matters in a more scientific way, we're all intelligent people here, even if SIS, AKA as SOS thinks otherwise of me."

Indeed, let's speak with scientific FACTS.

I refer you to the latest AAS Tree of Life journal on the internet, which also goes to AAS doners.

In it, David Narsai states:

"Since 1991, 4.5 million dollars have been raised."

WHERE are they, and what was purchased with that money? We need a full report, please. Mind you, 4.5 million is a LOT of money in Iraq, espcecially in the 90's. That would have roughly been 570 million Iraqi dollars. WHERE did that money go?

...wait a minute. You asked for facts...Narsai gave them to you. What you're doing is asking questions about those facts...that isn't "science"...it isn't even "factual" of you...you merely want further evidence....so why not ask the man? If he has no answer or refuses to give any, then state THAT as a fact...all you have here are your QUESTIONS...what makes a question "scientific fact"?

Narsai, "from 1/1/05-12/31/06 .87 cents of every dollar went to humanitarian projects."

Name ONE humanitarian project please. And don't quote me Ashur Moradkhan's apple orchard planting, which they later claimed all rotted away! PITY! I cannot destroy an apple seed, even when I try!

...there are several...the school dorm....several villages which received aid....something you don't understand is that all the AID scoeity has to do is liost its activities...it's for you to verify them as best you can...so go ahead. We were able to verify that Dedeeshoo has afake diploma...wasn't hard but WE did the looking...we didn't just ask..."is it fake"?

Narsai"$30,000.00 per month are needed to pay educational bills."

WHAT educational bills? Schools are FREE in Iraq.

...teachers don't work for free...salaries and books and busses and transport...if you recall Iraq is at war....with hardly any budget to pay anyone.

Narsai"To pay teacher's salaries, student transportation, text books, school and dorm."

Never mind that ADM never built a SINGLE school with that money, the way they claimed they did, (which we recently found out that it was actually a German group that built those schools for FREE) but as you know teacher's salaries, textbooks, etc. are all paid for by the Kurdish government, as part of the KRG Kurdish plans for the north. And there are NO DORMS.

...yes there is...they built one. Why so silly?

Narsai-"AAS is serving 7,000 students in 50 schools."

Name ONE student they have served in those 50 Kurdish schools, JUST ONE, please!

...why don't YOU? YOu are the one questioning them...how come you never do any of the workd but sit on your keester in that office all day raging about SCIENCE?

We need titles and deeds to prove ADM built schools, we need a list of the humanitarian projects, we need the name of the schools, we need a computer generated report, showing the teacher's monthly salaries ADM paid, we need name of students they are assisting, the class level they are, and names of the schools in which they claim they are attending.

...your "needs" are no one else's concerns...at the levells at which Narsai is able to solicit donations, not in a bingo parlor at ten cents a pop, but in the hundreds and throusands and tens of thousands, he's dealing with the kind of people not easily fooled...as you people are by fake diplomas....your needs are beyond anyone's interests.

You see, David, if ADM/AAS had such PROOF, they would have been plastered on every forum, newsletter, and magazine. But since they don't, we know it is all a bunch of lies. We have been asking for this proof for the last 10 years, but they cannot name ONE bridge they built, ONE ditch they dug, ONE school they built, ONE humanitarian project they were involved in.

...you want the name of a ditch? You claim you went back to Iraq and distributed money all over the place...and wept everywhere...do you have any proof?

I will never forget the day the president of AAA of Southern California, (Ms. Shamiran) asked for a report to show what ADM had done with the $20,000 donation made to them. The ADM reps. nearly beat her up and called her every filthy name they could think of in front of all those in attendance.

...Narsai has said many times that he's not about to answer every allegation by every Hottentot out there...after all, is your forum open for all to ask YOU questions? You are all welcome to set the IRS on their tail..a simple phone call will do...and you can remain famously anonymouse too. Put your mouth where your ass is and do something about your concerns.

These are the things that makes groups like ADM/AAS lose credibility. We have repeatedly asked for reports, and they are still COMING,hhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

...what you don't realize is that you aren't a part of their organization or their funding source...those people are well satisfied with the work that's been done. You are a famous bitch, that's all.

We have seen nothing from them but thuggery, deceipt, and fraud.

....that's all YOU ever see from anyone who outdistances you.

You don't think it hurts me to say that about an Assyrian organization? Think again! NO Assyrian wanted to see ADM/AAS become what it has, trust me.

...anyone who trusts you deserves all they get.



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