The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum #5

=> nice try....

nice try....
Posted by pancho (Moderator) - Sunday, April 28 2013, 18:01:09 (UTC)
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Taoro wrote:
>One mans facts are another mans tails. I have given you a bunch of names of assyrian and other scholars but you dismiss them because you dont like there findings another guy did the same thing and your argument was that hes not from the right university.


...we donīt want your names...we want THEIR names...their education...their published works...any universities they teach at...any prizes they have won, such as Pulitzers and others...and their ACTUAL WORDS. You have not done this. I gave you three...only three...Arnold Toynbee....Edward Gibbon....Will Durant. Given your age and level of education I doubt youīve heard of any of them...but thatīs okay...there was a time when I hadnīt heard of any of them either...but I fixed that by reading their books...and learning...you can do the same...then come back.


You have to understand that no normal person who calls himself a scholar would embarrass himself or put his reputation and careere on the line just to make a point maby one or two but they get refuted pretty quick.


...obviously you know nothing about scholarship...we have given you names and the actual QUOTES from scholars and historians who all say that Muslims did not do what you and your grandmother claim they did....bring us your scholars who say different.

So when i think it is now 21 countrys in the world who recognizes the genoside on the Armenians and Assyrians its not only based on politic (as would be your argument)


...of course it is...all, or most, of these countries you mention are Christian countries...when the day comes that these same Christian countries open an invesitgation of the genocide of Iraqi babies by Christians...then we will take you, and them, seriously.

if it would they will win more in not recognizing it because after all turky has a inner market with 70 million people to sell to and deal with.

...that isnīt the reason, silly...thatīs YOUR explanation of why they wont play into your Christian guilt.

So sure you can dismiss one or two but the fact is that when you write something on a university level you have to name your sources no matter if your name is fred the taxidriver aprim (or what you call him) or if your one of panchos favorite historians,


...then give us YOUR historians! Itīs a simple request...if you canīt find them, then get help. If you like we can post, again, those actual words...we have done this several times and would do it again, gladly. Rashad just did...a few such quotes from professor Juan Cole....want them again?

but in the end its the reader who have to decide what to do with the information he receives

...no again. It depends on what the information is...itīs quality, its verifiabilty, its accuracy, its source...but I can see you say this...you get your ínformation, as you call it, from Aprim who pulls it from his arse...I get mine from Toynbee, Durant and Gibbon, plus countless others...all information is not the same...YOUR opinion counts for nothing next to Einstien...or Toynbee...or Dr Joseph. Neither does mine...thatīs why I bring you THEIR words.



he can do like you and just ignore the world around him and make it into christian and muslim issues or he can take what he reads and buid on it and try to strengthen him self and his comunity.

...your community is weak, it is not strong...look at the example you present...you have no evidence...or you bring trivial evidence from 700 years ago which even you donīt rightly understand...your actual reading IN THE WORLD, as you put, as that of the rest of your copmmunity, is almost nonexistant...you only read what pleases you, what strokes your fantasies and balls...you know nothing of actual scholars so naturally you think all information is the same..you read Aprim, I read Toynbee...we both READ, so we both have a right to our OPINIONS...right? You are also a very cowardly community good for beating up on each other when one of you looks at Nineveh the wrong way...but present you with a real challenge and you slink away...like a couple of thousand people are now going to watch YOU slink away.

ps...wouldnīt you LOVE to be banned right now? Wouldnīt that save you from yourself? But we never ban....instead we watch people ban THEMSELVES.

...toodle-do



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