Posted by Ashur Beth-Shlimon from 113.chicago-19rh16rt.il.dial-access.att.net (18.104.22.168) on Sunday, September 14, 2003 at 3:18PM :
In Reply to: Re: Welcome back! posted by Ashur Beth-Shlimon from 225.chicago-20rh16rt.il.dial-access.att.net (22.214.171.124) on Sunday, September 14, 2003 at 3:03PM :
You are a very educated person and active Assyrian you don't need to ask a provoked question like this and our homeland is occupied by the Q...S usurpers and the sword of Arabism and Islam on our necks.
History reveals all the events what gone wrong with us and how we became from a majority to a minority. We know very well that the people of Assyria and Babylonia were Islamized and Arabized in the 7th century A.D. and onward.
For your record I was the first person who call to reform the ASSYRIAN NATIONALISM to be more realistic and getting out of that old formula of 19th century in my Assyrian Ideology that ever written by an Assyrian so far which goes back to over 24 years ago, that is the reason I left the AUA , so as you said I explored those ideas that there are MUSLIMS Assyrians no doubt of that, but you should know the answer without asking Bet-Basso that an ASSYRIAN MUSLIM in the full sense of Assyrianism doesn't exist so far and I hope I am wrong , this Assyrian Muslim should come forward and will be welcomed by all of us but to fight on an issue that doesn't exist will be absurd.
Finally, we shouldn't waste our time, let us work on that as my IDEOLOGY demanded i.e., the Assyrian Progressive Nationalist Party (A.P.N.P).
I hope a shed a light on your question and I am available to your question with open arms.
: : Peter Bet Basso from the AINA forum deleted my posts the last time I asked the most simple and most basic of questions to the people who visit AINA.
: : The question was, "Do Assyrian-Muslims exist?"
: : After asking this question my posts were deleted and I was pretty much told to discontinue the line of questioning or I would be banned.
: : As for the Kurds let me just inform you of something that you may not be aware of.
: : The majority of the Kurds in Iraq itself are of Assyrian descent. Barzani himself and his bloodline were in the mountains with us Tkhumaye only 100 years ago fighting in alliance with us against the other Assyrian tribes such as the Tyaraye, see Bader Khan Beg massacres.
: : Now for the shocking truth that few want to hear. Simko, the guy who ambushed and murdered Mar Shimun, himself was of Assyrian descent and would call Mar Shimun Father before WW1 and would even be seen kissing his hand!
: : Are you beginning to understand what we've just realised. We are in a battle not for cultural and linguistic survival not physically threatened by so-called enemies. We are our own worst enemies. The Kurds are also our people and what we need to do is find a way to live with them peacefully in our land where they constitute the majority. Our struggle should not be a naive physical armed conflict attempting to reconquer a Christian homeland, repeating the Jewish mistake. Our struggle should be a cultural and linguistic revival of our language and culture amongst our people first and foremost and eventually amongst our people who have become Kurdified and Arabised. But our brothers in Iraq, the Kurds and the Arabs, should not have our culture and language forced upon them like Saddam tried to do with Arabism. It should be offered as a valuable piece of their unique cultural and historical mosaic that is Iraqi. Also we as Assyrians should make attempts to appreciate our modern Kurdish and Arab culture and languages realising that our ancient Assyrian ancestors also respected each cities chief deity and would pay homage and show respect to each religion and god they came across. Only in this way can we rebuild Iraq and heal the religious and sectarian scars that have scarred us all these many centuries.
: : B'Sheyna,
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-- Ashur Beth-Shlimon
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