Posted by sankho from CPE-203-45-1-117.vic.bigpond.net.au (18.104.22.168) on Thursday, November 21, 2002 at 9:35PM :
In Reply to: Re: the point is this posted by pancho from pool0379.cvx25-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net (22.214.171.124) on Thursday, November 21, 2002 at 8:59PM :
: Wait a minute...prior to Saddam's falling for the the United States' con job...
>>> It's the same old line: "America gave Saddam the green light". Ziiiiiirt!! When some leader of some country fucks up it's because America gave him the green light; and in the same breath people who use this line say "America can't tell noone what to do man! Who do they think they are?" Excuses are used to suit the situation.
Iraq was doing very well, thank you.
>>>Very well according to what standars? Wasn't 'very well' for political dissidents left to stew in sewerage up to their chests for a few days to help them join the Bathys; or for all those thousands killed in the First Gulf War that the Baathys started to expand their 'property'...ooops, sorry, I forgot, America is to blame for that too, I'm so naive; I forget that America runs EVERYTHING and that people can't make choices for themselves and the Elders of Zion are behind everything too. That's right it's the E of Zion wanting to screw Iraq....
You try running a country that has such furious religious squabbles...not to mention a wide gap between rich and poor...modern and backward.
>>>> the Baathys tried.... unfortunately they are TOTALLY inept.
: After the Revolutionary War in America...this country stole human beings and brought them here to rape in order to breed more product...we also jailed George Mason for debt because this patriot extended himself to borrow, beg and almost steal money for Washington'e armies...who had none. In gratitude and because of their laws...they jailed him, till his friends shamed the country into paying his debts...THEIR debts. Why do people become so unhinged, make themselves so damn stupid just to win a point for THEIR side. The people on this planet are ALL "your" people.
: Try being a Shah and opening your country up while Mullahs squat on you. Then try all of this with the CIA and who knows what else infiltrating your country, bribing and buying and bumping people off.
>>>Just can't help thinking 'darkies' can't cope with modernity, the modern world, very well. They need to learn to 'play ball'; the rules have changed a bit since Mohamed's times....
: Hell we just stopped lynching Blacks a few years ago...just what makes our horrors acceptable and gives us the right to go find fault with others?
>>> America's horrors are not acceptable at all.... that's another story
Amnesty International has been slamming this country for years for our own violations of Human Rights.
: Just what actual evidence is there aginst Saddam, prior to 1980?
>>>Are you asking for real??????????
Who did he kill? Just what did he do to Christians and Christian Assyrians?
>>>>>>>His plans were taking effect slowly.... you can't go from elected pres to despot in two months; come on Fred, YOU need to get of YOUR happy pills. You don't like America's horrors ok, but now YOU'RE getting unhinged with all this 'I don't buy the Saddam shit'.... paaaaaaaaallllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeze!!!!!!!!
I don't buy all the bull about how he wanted to make Assyrian history into Arab history. That bit of myopia comes from our "experts" who claim Iraq is an Arab country...and then say anything Iraqi is really Arab...and since Saddam is president of Iraq and NOT Assyria or Chaldea or Babylon...and since he wants to pull his people together to identify themselves as one nation...largely again because of the circling sharks of the West...he gets blasted for making people into "Arabs"...when what he wants is a nation of Iraqis. There are no Arabs in Iraq.
>>>>hahaha what??!!! That's original! Yes ok they are all moslem Assyrians because their genes are Assyrian. Rot. People are what they call themselves, If your kids 'assimilate' into American society, lose their language and culture, who'll care that in 200 years they were genetically Assyrian? They will be 100% pure all-beef American, Italian, Spanish, whatever country they reside in....so long as they identify that way. Who cares that Iraqi's wrere 'Assyrian'? They identify 100% with Arab culture, the language, way of life etc There are 4 million Arabic speaking Turks in the region between Mardin and Turabdin. Their way of life looks so Assyrian despite the fact that they speak Arabic and are Moslem [oops]. I met with one man who is the head of a growing group of 'Mhalmoyeh' that say they are Assyrian.... many don't feel this way, just like many Oromoye and Chaldeans say Assyrians don't exist. So this Mhalmeen says he is Assyrian so he is.... the others say they aren't so they aren't. Who are YOU to say that Iraqis aren't Arab they are Assyrian. It's laughable.
: Ashcroft and Bush want us all to be one kind of American...
>>>they want your loyalties to be first with America; the rest is up to you; Ive never seen a country so diverse as America. It's the Babylon of today.
they're going to be looking out for un-American...un-cooperative...un-stupid people soon, and they could lock them away and we'll never know about it. Are you free just because you're ignorant and clueless?
: How quickly we all run down the path pointed out to us.
>>> seen it for myself. Don't like predigested stuff, personally.
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