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Re: A Special message to brother ASSYRIAN MUSLIM
Posted by AssyrianMuslim (Guest) - Saturday, December 8 2007, 17:18:09 (CET)
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JUMBLAT wrote:
>Dear brother Assyrian:
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>The following 5 lines were chosen from almost 100 lines of verses that belong to Malpana RAbba Gewarges of Erbil/Arbil , keep in mind this INTELLECTUAL the date of his birth is not known, but he died A.D. 1325
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>You try to believe John Joseph or this Pancho what they are trying to promote that the Britons gave us the name Assyrian, these lines not CONFIRM only, but are said in pride by our Malpana that we are Assyrians and now I will try to translate in a rough English and you could print that and show it to any one knows our language to make sure.
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>ܥܘܢܝܬܐ ܕܡܠܦܢܐ ܓܝܘܪܓܝܣ ܘܪܕܐ ܕܐܪܒܝܠ( 1225 - ?)
> ܕܥܠ ܩܬܘܠܝܩܐ ܦܛܪܝܪܟܐ ܕܡܕܢܚܐ - ܢܩܛܘܦ ܚܡܫܐ ܚܘܩܝܢ ܐܝܟܐ ܕܥܗܕ ܫܡܐ ܐܬܘܪܝܐ ܒܐܝܩܪܐ :
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>ܘܡܪܝ ܡܐܪܝ ܐܬܘܪܝܐ: ܡܢ ܛܘܗܡܐ ܚܠܐ ܟܘܢܝܐ܀
>And Mar Mari ATURAYA: how sweat is his origin ( 1 )
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>ܘܥܒܕܝܫܘܥ ܐܬܘܪܝܐ: ܕܡܢ ܓܢܣܐ ܛܘܗܡܢܝܐ܀
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>And Abdesho ATURAYA : from a sweet ethnicity ( 2 )
>ܕܗܘܐ ܒܐܬܘܪ ܥܠܠܢܐ: ܘܐܬܩܬܠܩ ܐܝܟ ܩܢܘܢܐ܀
>That who became in Assyria a leader: and was ordinate according to the law ( 3
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>ܒܐܬܘܪ ܡܒܥܬ ܝܘܠܦܢܐ: ܘܐܬܡܢܝ ܒܣܝܣܪܬܐ ܕܟܐܢܐ܀
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>In ASSYRIA a center of learning: and was counted in the list of righteous ( 4 )
>ܘܥܒܕܝܫܘܥ ܡܐܢܐ ܓܒܝܐ: ܕܡܢ ܐܬܘܪ ܟܪܟܐ ܦܐܝܐ܀
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>And Abdesho a selected container: from ASSYRIA a beautiful place ( 5 )
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>Now, let us take that the BRITISH gave us the Assyrian name, while as I said is not, then why today the PILLARS of ASSYRIANISM are JACOBITE intellectuals and many others of Chaldaeans ? could his excellency John Joseph explain that ? because he said they called the NESTORIANS to be ASSYRIANS , and you know NESTORIANS in more than 800 years ago were ARABS, PERSIANS, TURKOMANS , TURKS , ARAMEANS , CANAANITES and ASSYRIANS !
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>Then , this smart Professor raises the issue of names , that ASSYRIANS don't use ASSYRIAN names and some claimed nobody naming ASHURBANIPAL , this is very easy to be handled as you know ASSYRIANS were influenced by the BIBLE as the non Arabs are influenced by the Qur'an, if today more than 70% of Persians, Turks, Pakistanis and other are ARAB names , DO YOU THINK THEY ARE ARABS? if yes, then Dr. Joseph IS RIGHT, but if not THEN YOU SHOULD KNOW HE IS DEAD WRONG , and not just that for your information that we are using ASSYRIAN names just to name , BETO, KHAMO , TAMMO , NIMO , DAMMO , SHAMRON and many others AND NOT JUST THAT that you will be surprised what happened between me and a Jewish Professor when I told him, WHAT YOU THINK , WHEN ' A B R A H A M ' departed ASSYRIA ( HARRAN ) do you think that he has an ASSYRIAN NAME? which is ' AB RAMU ' which is in Arabic as ' SHEIK /or the ELDERLY ' THAT PROFESSOR LAUGHED and said yes you are right , because I told him he should have an ASSYRIAN passport with an Assyrian name when migrated from HARRAN to Palestine*.
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>* NOTE: in the BIBLE huge mistakes and one of them that ABRAHAM came from UR of the Chaldee - which is dead wrong - historically the Chaldaeans are the last wave who entered southern Mesopotamia about 1000 B.C. where there were no Chaldaeans in the area at the time of the ABRAHAM migration, then why ABRAHAM if he came from the south of MESOPOTAMIA go all the way north where his trip distance will be triple that to go almost straight via PALMYRA - DAMASCUS to Palestine ? BUT , because he was in the north - in HARRAN / ASSYRIA - that is the reason even his son married a woman from his relatives who were in HARRAN and not in UR of CHALDEA !

Thank you for posting the poem first of all. I couldn't agree with you anymore about the story of Abraham(pbuh) and his background. He was an Assyrian and lived among them. The Jewslike refer to themselves as the "chosen people" , every prophet was Jewish and that they only accept Jewish prophets. Well they are dead wrong because most prophets except for the ones who came to them were of their own blood. There was no such thing as "Jewish" back then. They were known as "Israelites" "Children of Israel" etc they adopted "Jews" long after all those prophets. They have even lied about many people such as Abraham being born in Ur of Chaldees as you mentioned. Ur at the time of Prophet Abraham(pbuh) was not Chaldean at all. The Chaldeans migrated there over 1500 years later from elsewhere. I asked this pastor at the church I use to go to about Abraham's ethnicity, and he answered that he was "Chaldean", I immediately corrected him and didn't want to believe me. He said "do you want to argue about the word of God" I said "nooo I am not arguing against the word of God but rather pointing out lies which were written by some people and blame them on God. Just like the story of the "Tower of Babylon". They say it was build to fight God but that is a bunch of bull shit. They are too jealous to admit that it was build for "observing" and "studies". So they lie and say it was build so that the Assyrians could go fight God.

There are many other lies about Assyrians. Remember the story of King Sencharib and how it says that God send an angel and killed 185,000 Assyrian soldiers and then all of the sudden Sencharib went back home to Nineveh and was killed by his 2 sons. The funny thing is that no where in Assyrian/Babylonian records are there any such names mentioned "Sherezar" and "Adramlesh". furthermore, such a huge event like an angel killing 185,000 soldiers is not something that would be found in only 1 verse of the Bible but rather written in other books and records. They wanted to make it look Assyrians were barbaric and didn't believe in God so God protected his favorite people(Jews) from the Assyrians. They forget that it was the same God who send the Assyrians to kick their asses. If they didn't believe in God, why would they obey God and go destroy people. There are many lies about Abraham, Assyrian, Babylonians and many other stories and people.



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