Re: Okay! Take off the gloves, just for a minute.

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Posted by panchmaster from ( on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 9:31AM :

In Reply to: Okay! Take off the gloves, just for a minute. posted by Ashur Bar Ninvayah from ( on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 3:04AM :

: Name change? What are you talking about?

+++The name you are using isn't a's a title. None of us are speak so bravely without standing by your know.

: All right, I'm taking off the gloves, for a while.

+++Not before you clean up the vomit.

If you are really the peaceful person you claim to be, then why do attack the character and personalities of people who disagree with you,

+++You mean like you lumped people together and puked on them?

instead of the issues.

+++What issues? You guys think when you make sweeping generalizations and gnash your teeth and shake your fists you've hit an "issue"

Would that philosophy inspire peace and good will in the world?

+++Puking all over people doesn't. Neither does encouraging Israelis to kill Palestinianians. Peace and goodwill are what you Christians bring to people you vomit on.

And your condescending manner, is that reserved just for Christians?

+++Yes. How else would you treat someone who can't get in to see their bank manager but believes he has the rapt attention of the god of the universe, The grand creator of the stars and galaxies who fawns all over him and pets him...a god who worries over him and follows him around talking to him?

I never said I was a Christian, but for the record, I'm not ashamed to admit that I am a Catholic, not the Fundamentalist, born again Christian you assumed I was.

++++So much the worse for you...Catholic puke is among the nastiest.

: And all those arguments you brought up about America being the most violent nation. Those arguments do carry some weight, but they are too complex to be dismissed with one or two sentences.

+++Unlike your "points" which fall over all by themselves. Who stood YOU up last week? Been a rough semester? Pimples got you down?

Each of those issues has another side, ugly as they may be. I'll concede that you may have some very good arguments and if you like I would be willing to argue the points intelligently and calmly,

+++You don't discuss. Besides this isn't a debating what you want.

but the other accusations about my identity, etc., that was uncalled for.

+++Your vomit was called for? Clean up your own mess first and get yourself a name you aren't afraid to stand behind...then try again. Or don't. You aren't doing me any's not like your "issues" are deep and interesting...another Chritian rant is all. You don't like Democrats, Palestinians, wimps and cowards...write a book.

I like a good argument, but I'm not so narrow-minded as you might think.

+++Gee...what could have given me that idea.

And my main concern whether you believe me or not is the safety of the Assyrian people, especially in Iraq.

+++Oh come one! Their safety means nothing to you...there are Assyrians in south Iraq too...and central, east and guys never mention them because it is Christians who fly the bombs in and Christians who starve them and deny them medicine. Because the United States has allowed it...we have a temporary "haven" in the north...had they not...none of you would be "interested" in those Assyrians...and if tomorrow they move the "no fly" zone 150 miles to the east, you'll all fall in love with those Assyrians and never want to hear about the ones you were "so concerned" about before. ALL Assyrians...Christian and Muslim have been and ARE in danger there...all Iraqis are in danger there.

+++Saddam never attacked the United States...he never killed 600,000 Iraqi children...indeed the standard of living was high and climbing in Iraq and Asssyrian Christians and Muslims were living quite well...except for the fact that your damn Christian religion was pissed at having "lost" the country.

++++Given that the United States prefers dealing with these kinds of tyrants...from Patagonia to Kuwait...and given that the people of Iraq never had a choice about accepting America's candidate...I'd say life for Iraqis was just fine thank you, inspite of the liabilities. Just because Saddam went "rogue", was no good reason to punish the lovely people of Iraq.

+++The United States and Great Britain have exacerbated whatever difficulties that region had on its own...our "ally" Saudi Arabia is a much worse dictatorship than Saddam has.

: I Am: Ashur

+++You are ALL Ashur...I didn't think "Clyde" would be the name such a Christian muggins would come up with. And those of you aren't Ashur or an implement, are Sargon. Whatever your name might are a born again...I don't take people at their own estimation of themselves.

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